[From nobody Mon Jan 14 08:17:46 2013 Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (mta2.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.123]) by mail-sf1.pacbell.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25720 for <pghpcc@mail-sf1.pacbell.net>; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from alycia.dementia.org ([128.2.35.149]) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FKN009R60HOOV@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net> for pghpcc@mail-sf1.pacbell.net; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) id OAA10390 for pittsburgh-railways-outgoing; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns.pulsenet.com (root@dns.pulsenet.com [204.171.168.2]) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA10386 for <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org>; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dell (bay1a-14.pulsenet.com [12.32.6.37]) by dns.pulsenet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA22419 for <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org>; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:51:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:51:50 -0500 From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <twg@pulsenet.com> Subject: RE: Route 53 - Carrick and south side In-reply-to: <24BBABF70F75D311B2980008C71678F70EB821@HILLNJEXCH> Sender: owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Reply-to: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Message-id: <NDBBIOKINLEKLIJCOKHAIENCCAAA.twg@pulsenet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) PTM predecessor PERC (and later PRMA) published a track map in 1959, reprinted about 1971. Still available in the museum store for a buck or two plus postage. An email would produce an exact number: ptmstore@pa-trolley.org Ed -----Original Message----- From: owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org [mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org]On Behalf Of Vigrass, Bill Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 2:40 PM To: 'pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org' Subject: RE: Route 53 - Carrick and south side Was there ever a complete track map published of PRCo? Such as by ERA? Or some other org? I have Headlights 1949 to date, so perhaps there is one that I could find if someone gave me a reference. It would be fascinating. Bill V. -----Original Message----- From: John Swindler [mailto:j_swindler@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 2:19 PM To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Subject: RE: Route 53 - Carrick and south side Bill Vigrass wrote > >How could I have possibly forgotten the 77/54! What was Carrick via the >Tunnel? 54? Bill. > How about 47-Carrick via Tunnel. The 54 car line was a Carrick via Brady St. Bridge to Oakland, and possibly to Lawrenceville area line, more years ago then any of us will recall. Maybe it was a feeder to J&L southside steel plant for Oakland and hilltop residents??? And the 77 went from Oakland via Lawrenceville to 16th St. Bridge to northside. It served the Heinz plant on the northside and the Strip District. Anyway, for whatever reason, PRC through routed these two lines to create the famous (at least to Pittsburgh railfans) "flying fraction". These are (vague) recollections from a historical route summary put together by PAT in mid 1970s. Ed at PTM may have access to PRC route card information. John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ]