[From nobody Mon Jan 14 08:17:52 2013 Return-path: <shadow+bounces@dementia.org> Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (mta2-pr.snfc21.pbi.net) by sims1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.07.30.00.05.p8) with ESMTP id <0FQP001ZLKPIAE@sims1.snfc21.pbi.net> for pghpcc@sims-ms-daemon; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from alycia.dementia.org ([128.2.35.149]) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FQP0023XKNTFS@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net> for pghpcc@sims1.snfc21.pbi.net; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) id PAA26576 for pittsburgh-railways-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from crow.a001.sprintmail.com (crow.prod.itd.earthlink.net [209.178.63.7]) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA26572 for <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (ip230.las-vegas6.nv.pub-ip.psi.net [38.29.28.230]) by crow.a001.sprintmail.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10457 for <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:22:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:21:12 +0000 From: Kenneth and Tracie Josephson <kjosephson@sprintmail.com> Subject: Disabled PCCs Sender: owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Reply-to: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Message-id: <38BBB9B8.78AE@sprintmail.com> Organization: Kenneth and Tracie Josephson MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SI304B01 (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: <95C363B0BC40D11197F50000F8222B6F410276@clw10001.li-sec.state.pa.us> <38BAA650.A53345C2@pop.pitt.edu> <38BAF7FF.5CF4@pacbell.net> It simply amazes me after reading Fred and Jim's dialog concerning operation practices that a car without full braking capacity would be allowed to travel to the Junction a.) under its own power and b.) with passengers aboard. I don't doubt Matt's story. What I'd like to know is if this was the motorman's judgement call and if so, how long did he remain on the payroll after the brass found out? Remember, the incident Matt reported occurred during the days when you couldn't run a red flag, ram a stopped car full of passengers, get fired, get reinstated, get your boss fired for firing you then sue the Port Authority for allowing you to be fired in the first place. I have a mid 1960's photo of a line truck towing a disabled air car. I believe it was on the 71 or 73. I thought they had M-200 for that sort of assignment. Ken J. ]