[From nobody Mon Jan 14 08:17:59 2013 Return-path: <shadow+bounces@dementia.org> Received: from mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (mta3-pr.snfc21.pbi.net) by sims1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.07.30.00.05.p8) with ESMTP id <0FRQ008Q7QWDP6@sims1.snfc21.pbi.net> for pghpcc@sims-ms-daemon; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from alycia.dementia.org ([128.2.35.149]) by mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FRQ00KA5QV3LA@mta3.snfc21.pbi.net> for pghpcc@sims1.snfc21.pbi.net; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) id RAA22864 for pittsburgh-railways-outgoing; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:09:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (mta2.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.123]) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA22860 for <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org>; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.170.1.4]) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FRQ00E55QQUT7@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net> for pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:06:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:52:45 -0800 From: Jim Holland <pghpcc@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: PRCo PCC 1645. Sender: owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Reply-to: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Message-id: <38D69DAD.7C61@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03C-PBXG (Win16; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: <NDBBIOKINLEKLIJCOKHAMELECCAA.twg@pulsenet.com> Greetings! Thanks, Ed, for taking the time to follow this up. I have a photo of 1261 with mangled front end sitting in Palm Garden which I took myself. I went off to Uncle-Sam's-Canoe-Club in March of 1963 and took the photo that Fall when home on leave - it is easier to remember now with the date confirmed. I knew the operator of 1645 by sight - he said that 1261 looked like a barn coming at him because one never expects such an occurrance! I believe that the signal system failed or that is what I heard. This operator is a very mild-tempered person and not given to flooring the power pedal, but he is also the operator who pulled a Drake car out of the barn on Mother's Day in the early 1960s when 1723 went on the ground at Bon Air Siding outbound. When I got on the car back at SHJ he had already gone around downtown and was sent out over the 38 and 38A to Castle Shannon. H mentioned that he did not like moving this fast because the overhead had expanded considerably on that hot day - which the heat did to the switch at Bon Air to cause 1723 to derail! But by the time we got back inbound to Castle Shannon, we were back on the schedule for 1723!! A very nice ride, especially up truck route 19 at speed! Edward H. Lybarger wrote: > > It and 1261 had a head-on somewhere on the 38A on 7-8-63. Both were retired > as > a result. > > --from Dave Hamley > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org > [mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org]On Behalf Of Jim Holland > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 10:33 AM > To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org > Subject: Re: PRCo PCC 1645. > > Greetings! > > Was this the one in the cornfield meet with a 1200 on the Dinky Track > between Mt.Lebanon and Castle Shannon? I thought of that possibility > but also thought it happened after PAT started operations. > > Edward H. Lybarger wrote: > > > Accident damage...it needed a front end. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org > > [mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org]On Behalf Of Jim Holland > > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 4:58 PM > > To: PRCo -- WP -- JTC -- The Big *3* -- > > Subject: PRCo PCC 1645. > > > Greetings! > > > Looking at pg.-367 of Lind's book *From Horsecars to Streamliners* > > about the St. Louis Car Company, a note on Job#-1646 shows that > > ({[pat]}) did not accept 1645. > > > WHY?? James B. Holland ------- -- --------- Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), June of 1949 -- June of 1953 To e-mail *privately,* please click here: mailto:pghpcc@pacbell.net N.M.R.A. Life member #2190; http://www.mcs.net:80/~weyand/nmra/ ]