[From nobody Mon Jan 14 08:17:59 2013 Received: from mailsorter-101-10.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.44) by storefull-118.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <shadow+bounces@dementia.org> Received: from alycia.dementia.org (ALYCIA.DEMENTIA.ORG [128.2.35.149]) by mailsorter-101-10.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id LAA20422; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) id OAA27551 for pittsburgh-railways-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.119]) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA27547 for <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org>; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from storefull-616.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-616.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.26]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 9913913C9 for <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org>; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-616.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-e/mt.gso.26Feb98) id LAA22880; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:04:30 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAnof11wQ3HXEjvj5WPAOBPGOV6AACFCeMdKKp5OzzrZGyiLDIPUB9W6YM From: SaturnV@webtv.net (Bob Schmidt) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:04:30 -0400 (EDT) To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Subject: Re: http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/rhp039.htm Message-ID: <25470-395649AE-2130@storefull-616.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Jim Holland <pghpcc@pacbell.net>'s message of Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:54:36 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-4502-1221 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org --WebTV-Mail-4502-1221 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit You're right, Jim. I've never seen a photo of this end of the building (ref.pic 039 Yards & Barns) with so little clutter. This little area had more activity than anywhere else in the yard due to the tight loop and wye providing a major orientation setup for daily "Rush Hour" operations. For those unfamiliar with the SHJ area, the section of track the Northbound PCC (rear view) is shown sitting on, was used in more recent years for the "car wash" shed annex, built off the wall of the building. A quick observation regarding (ref.pic 014 Yards & Barns) trackwork at Craft is the absence of M-283 do to the rail lifting. Many other photos I've seen of track maintenance work, (and some overhead wire projects too), show flatbed crane trucks, and/or box trucks. No wonder those wretched old workcars that very few find interesting outlived all but a few PCC's. PTM holds the proof of their limited service. Are you grinning Charlie? B.Schmidt --WebTV-Mail-4502-1221 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-12.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.49) by storefull-616.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <shadow+bounces@dementia.org> Received: from alycia.dementia.org (ALYCIA.DEMENTIA.ORG [128.2.35.149]) by mailsorter-101-12.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id KAA26601; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) id NAA27194 for pittsburgh-railways-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by alycia.dementia.org (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA27190 for <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org>; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.170.1.47]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FWP00KM9Z9X2V@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:54:36 -0700 From: Jim Holland <pghpcc@pacbell.net> Subject: http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/rhp039.htm To: PRCo -- WP -- JTC -- The Big *3* -- <pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org> Message-id: <3956394C.3FFC@pacbell.net> Organization: Holland Electric Railway Operation MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03C-PBXG (Win16; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Greetings! This photo http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/rhp039.htm is really spectacular from m-a-n-y different angles! 1)--It shows the *other--end* of the South Hills barn that is usually obscured by equipment sitting in the yard. 2)--The 16-interurban still looks very good with dash lights and the hour-glass front end! 3)--Hints of the wye at this location are evident. One leg of the wye starts behind the rear of the 16 on track 6 in the photo and moves to the left. After finishing a run, the motorman would park the cars on one of the 6-yard tracks heading south. But many had to be turned for to head north out of the yard. This wye could be used for completely turning the cars or they could loop the building thru this leg of the wye and head to the ladder track and be backed into one of the 6 yard tracks to head out north. A number of other variations for turning the cars could be used. James B. Holland Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), 1930 -- 1950 To e-mail privately, please click here: mailto:pghpcc@pacbell.net N.M.R.A. Life member #2190; http://www.mcs.net:80/~weyand/nmra/ --WebTV-Mail-4502-1221-- ]