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From: "Donald Galt" <galtfd@att.net>
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Subject: Re: Second Avenue/Tenth/Carson   *also 11th street in town
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On 29 Sep 00, at 21:38, Bob Schmidt wrote:

> 
> Tom Hannon, (operator of PAT' s M283 crane car
> in the 80's), lived on Beltzhoover at about the point where
> Bailey became Beltzhoover. I remember discussing those
> paving marks and recall him mentioning he had no
> recollection of any trolley operation requiring rails in
> that section of Beltzhoover Avenue.

Boy, am I glad finally to have corroboration from somebody else. I 
even have a couple of pictures of the phenomenon, though nothing 
can capture the sensation of driving at night along a street that one 
may or may not have travelled before (in parts of Pittsburgh, I'm 
convinced, streets rearrange themselves between visits) and 
suddenly catching those lines in the headlights.

The marks probably aren't spaced quite right but they sure look 
convincing. It's tempting to think that the 33 might once have 
continued from its terminus at the Castle Shannon incline, down 
Bailey and Beltzhoover to Warrington, but that fantasy is punctured 
by the evidence.

Don
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