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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Greg:<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Great
stuff that crystal clear, especially for those of us in HO.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am
curious though, what did you use for the clear varnish that stretched the CC?<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Also how do you make the thicker CC
applications?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Do you ever use two
coats of CC?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Since you
opened the issue you have more work to do.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>How can we do the same on larger windows?<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Most modern light rail vehicles have
flush mounted gasket windows and most of them are very large.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I have a model of the Philadelphia
Kawasaki car that hasn’t been put together because I haven’t thought of a way
to do the windows right.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>My
current thinking is to somehow put a plug in the window frame, then pour in a clear
liquid epoxy or even that stuff you heat to make water.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Greg King
[mailto:tramway@one.net.au]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 25, 2000
6:54 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Interurbans@egroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> windows</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi
guys,</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Just
thought I would post a little discovery I made that probably everyone else has
too, but here goes anyway. </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I know
a lot of you have the Crogi PCC's and the "old look" GM buses, all
with standee windows, these and and all other models with windows like this
suffer from the same problem, even (to a lesser degree) the beautifull SPTC Pgh
PCC's. The problem? Flush glazing, this is not just these cars, other
streetcars and buses have/had windows that were flush with the body mounted in
rubber "grummets" so that, when you look down the side of the body,
the windows should be flush with the sides, not recessed as the Corgi models
are with just a bit of plastic behind the window space.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Many
year ago, I built an Osaka (Japan) car which had very large flush top windows
and had a hell of a time flush fitting those windows but did it (you
can see a picture on Dave's Rail Pix), anyway, back to the main line. As I
am working on my next production bus in HO (Marmon Herrington T/C) I was pondering
how I could tell the purchasers a way of reproducing that look (I
have to do something while I'm driving my Streetcars at
work!!). Then I remembered my friends in the aircraft
modelling group I'm in (aviation is my other love)</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>and the product they used when scratch building an aircraft and
have to make windows (and you don't get more flush windows than and aeroplane!)
it a product called "Crystal Clear" all this is, is white or PVC
glue.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>It can
only be used in small cavities, about 1/4" square is about max, it's not
perfect, but gives the closest effect other than individually fitting each
window, last night I tested it out on the standee windows of a Corgi PCC,
varrying from very thin to really thick, the thinner you do it the more it
"sags" in the middle, the thicker you make it, the longer the
"white" takes to turn clear but the result (takes overnight) is more
flush, as soon as get the digital camera back, I'll take some pix. According to
my friends, the most successfull way to do it (I've modified this for our
purposes) is to finish the model and paint it, then do the flush windows, then
clear varnish the model, this has the effect of "Doping are flying model
aeroplane" that is, to stretch the "Crystal Clear" and make it
even better, the good part is, at leats with the Corgi's, if you stuff it up,
it's water based and is easily removed.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hope
this ahs been of interest.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Greg</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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