<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 1/11/01 3:36:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>j_swindler@hotmail.com writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">But the real question is, who has a copy of the labor agreement between ATU
<BR>div. 85 and PRC from 1930s or 1940s? And what does it say about seniority
<BR>and picking of runs? Because I'd bet a value meal at McDonald's (ok, so <BR>I'm
<BR>cheap!) that seniority for picking runs was why Tunnel maintained a city <BR>and
<BR>a interurban seniority list.
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<BR>Having worked at SHJct, with some of the remaining "interurban" operators, I <BR>can offer this.
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<BR>Several of the operators at SHJ in the 1970s and 80s were operators who were <BR>former interurban operators working out of Castle Shannon when it was in <BR>operation. I can remember three men who would talk to me about the days when <BR>there were two lists. This apparently came about through the clauses in the <BR>labor agreement and the fact that "interurban" operators were considered <BR>higher in status than regular city operators. The training was more intense <BR>on the interurban lines what with a different type of car and such additional <BR>equipment as the 'trolleyphone', extra trolley pole, tool kit, etc. These <BR>operators were required to know more and do more in the event of an emergency <BR>or breakdown than a city service operator. The fact that they may break down <BR>miles from the nearest service facility or route foreman required that they <BR>had the knowledge and skill to start remedial action before a route foreman <BR>arrived in order to keep ser!
vice operating.
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<BR>One could easily see that the former interurban operators were in a class by <BR>themselves. They had a very different attitude than newer, younger operators. <BR>Most of them (those still around in the 1970s, at least) were former WW II <BR>service men and had that "do or die" attitude now missing in society. Even <BR>the way they wore the uniform indicated a group that was, to paraphrase a <BR>quote from the US Marine Corps, "the proud, the few, the interurban <BR>operators."
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<BR>I am certain that to have that group integrated into the regular seniority <BR>list at SHJ would have caused problems with moral. So two lists were <BR>maintained until the end of interurban service.
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<BR>Interesting too, was the fact that all the men remaining from the <BR>Washington/Charleroi days always picked 35 or 36. Seldom would I even see one <BR>of them on the 37 and never on 42/38 and certainly not on 49.
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<BR>I heard some interesting stories from these guys about the last of the <BR>interurban days in Pittsburgh.
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<BR>PATransit did have a combined garage at the E. Liberty Division. It was a <BR>combination of Craft Ave. and Homewood. However, there was only one run pick <BR>held for the entire seniority list. Operators were assigned to either E. <BR>Liberty 'A' or E. Liberty 'B' for administrative purposes only. A was old <BR>Craft Ave. and B was old Homewood. There were also two superintendents, one <BR>for A and one for B.
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<BR>I really never asked, and do not know, if there were two superintendents at <BR>SHJ when there was both a city and interurban division at the one car house.
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