I took you there Jerry, remember? Looks alot different than it did in the early 50s. -- "Edward H. Lybarger" wrote: Off the Jefferson & Maiden line near the east end. Dunn Avenue off Maiden Street. -----Original Message----- From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce@lists.dementia.org [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce@lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of mtoytrain@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:18 AM To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair ED You mean I missed some hallowed ground: "Washington Park" where is that located??, yes Mark and I even cleaned off a stretch of the Donora Wye to take a better picture. Looking forward to a soon return to the land of the vanished trolleys! Jerry Matsick > > From: "Edward H. Lybarger" > Date: 2006/01/09 Mon AM 09:12:30 EST > To: > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair > > PRCo's objective was to the job as cheaply as possible. PA Highways Dept., > on the other hand, wanted it done right with the track removed and the > surface restored. The result was a hodgepodge of methodology, depending on > the location and how vocal the local politicians were. Typically, PRCo just > cut off the rail head somewhere near the top of the web, then threw asphalt > in the remaining groove. Amazingly, this satisfied PDH and the > municipalities. Naturally, it all came out the next winter! It took until > 1957 to finish the job. All the understreet track structure was just left > in place until the road was rebuilt, which usually happened when the ties > rotted beyond redemption. So there's very little actual track left in > Washington County. Washington Park comes to mind, as does the wye in > Donora. > > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce@lists.dementia.org > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce@lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of > mtoytrain@bellsouth.net > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:56 AM > To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org; pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair > > > I remember and it must have been around 1948/49, that the entire stretch of > tracks in Donora was > repaired, they came in and dug out all of the brick, concrete and or black > top and worked on the track and replaced it all and caused alot of mess on > McKean Avenue. I don't remember for some reason and that seems to be a > topic of NON discussion of who cares when they took the tracks up? My > question is in fact does alot of the PRCo railway track remain paved over? > > Jerry Matsick > > > > From: "James B. Holland" > > Date: 2006/01/09 Mon AM 04:57:39 EST > > To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: PITTSBURGH'S___1950___TRACK___PROGRAM > > > > Fred Schneider wrote: > > . > > > > > ... In the 1940s there was a lot of track replacement going on. > > > > . > > In threads in the past we have observed that the Trustees during the > > Bankruptcy were quite good with PRCo -- most if not all the PCCs were > > purchased under them and Not A Little Track Work was done. It's a > > shame that all those Underliers ere bleeding so much cash from the > > company -- wonder how it would have differed if PRCo had a better cash > > flow? > > > > > In the early 1950s there was a lot of work at car stops and special > > > work ... probably were cars were derailing. > > > > . > > Significant wear at car stops as braking exerts downward pressure with > > more rail wear. Even on open T-Rail, stops that were used > > frequently often had the total railhead surface worn smooth whereas > > where cars are rolling there was only a thin line of steel visible on > > the railhead. With PCC braking and the possible use of track > > brakes, rail at stops could wear even more. > > . > > > > > In the late 1950s, there was a lot of work tearing up track. > > > > . > > Wasn't it the late 1950s or early 1960s when not a small amount of track > > was replaced by PRCo on either Forbes or Fifth -- has been mentioned > > here before. Source may have been Trolley Fare -- can't remember > > offhand. > > > > > > > > > > Jim__Holland > > > > > > I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!! > > > > down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > >