The caption for the photo of 1700 on the Crosstown line should perhaps read "early 1949", not early 1947. ;>) -- "Holland Electric Rwy. Op. H.E.R.O. - SPTC / James B.Holland" wrote: I am going to make an *--Assumed___Observation--* of YES! -- based on the following: . . 01.>--The article states that both Westinghouse and GE had big ad spreads in the Pgh. snoozepapers prior to debut of the cars. . 02.>--The article Refers to the whole 100 car lot. . 03.>--The Only Distinction made about this 100 car lot of 1700s is that 25 of the cars are built for Interurban service. . . Therefore, unless information to the contrary is presented, it seems reasonable to assert that 1700--1799 benefit from #3 listed below and requoted here::::::: . """3:___A change has been made in the motor control which permits carrying the acceleration rate to a higher speed which, in effect, means that the cars can operate up grades faster. This is tied in with a Speed Governing Relay, which will not permit the cars to exceed a predetermined maximum speed.""" . . . Jim___Holland . . . Boris Cefer wrote: . > This is the high field shunting I mentioned some time back. This > article confirms that it provided faster acceleration at higher speeds > and faster up grade operation. > Now, were all 1700s equipped this way? (GE cars?) > > Boris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James B. Holland" > >> The following is gleaned from *--Mass___Transportation--* >> January_1949, pgs.48-51::: >> . >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> . >> """Last month Pittsburgh, perhaps the strongest of the street car's >> few remaining strongholds, took delivery on the first of 100 new >> streamliners. These 100 new cars will bring the company's streamline >> fleet to 666 cars, with nearly as many old timers of various vintages >> swelling the total of cars covering the hilly steel city's more than >> 500 miles of track.... >> """ >> . >> """Addition of the new cars received heavy play in the Pittsburgh >> newspapers (possibly influenced by some big ad spreads from such >> suppliers as Westinghouse, GE, St.Louis Car Company [SLCCo], >> U.S.Steel and Clark Equipment) and Tom Fitzgerald and company >> doubtless hoped that the pleasant publicity would lessen the public's >> antagonism to the company's current request for another fare >> increase...""" >> ....... >> ....... >> """Improved control circuits make the operation of the cars >> smoother. These improvements include:""" >> . >> """3:___A change has been made in the motor control which permits >> carrying the acceleration rate to a higher speed which, in effect, >> means that the cars can operate up grades faster. This is tied in >> with a Speed Governing Relay, which will not permit the cars to >> exceed a predetermined maximum speed.""" >