No Herb. I certainly was not one of the rock throwers. We used to poke our heads up between the ties under the bridge. Hearing the trolley would scare the crap out of me. Stupid yes, rock thrower no. In fact I prevented other kids after football practice from throwing things. "let's hang under the bridge" I would say and that seemed to curb the nasty ones from throwing things. I used to walk the 38A tracks behind the Thorofare Supermarket (currently a Post Office, ironic isn't it?) and once found a huge log layed across the tracks. Me and my buddy moved it of course. It got us a free ride when I told an operator about it. Mark -- Herb Brannon wrote: I do remember the "kids" (we operators sometimes called them other names) along the 38A line. I am sure you were not one of the ones who threw rocks at the the cars. There were two spots which were bad for rock throwing. One was the somewhat wooded area around the passing siding closest to Clearview Loop and the other was where, many years ago, there was a connection from the 35/36/37 tracks and Brookline Loop. That area was so bad for rock throwing we started calling that stretch of track "Machine Gun Alley." There would be so many kids lined up throwing rocks it actually sounded like a machine gun firing as the rocks hit the passing cars. Mark McGuire wrote: My apologies for the late reply, but I haven't checked my e-mail all week. Herb, you certainly do look familiar to me. Although I was between 10 and 18 years old between 1972-1980 so you wouldn't remember me and my pal who used to ride the streetcars in Pittsburgh. If you ever operated on the 38A and remember a group of kids hanging out by the bridge over Castle Shannon Blvd. , I would have been in that group. We used listen for the trolley then go below and hang from the bridge as the car rumbled above. This is when I was in Jr. High and it would have been after school let out. Mark P.S.- If stupid me would have been aware of Sunday passes, I would have rode all day. But alas, I had no idea. -- Herb Brannon --------------------------------- wrote: Well then, allow me to be the first to post my mug on the "list." This was taken last Summer in August, hence the decent tan. Here on the U.S. North Coast we bask in the sun on the fine beaches of the Great Lakes.....................sure we do. Anyway, this is me. Mark McGuire wrote: I agree, Dennis, that it would be nice to see a photo of everyone so I could picture them as they post. I met you once, Dennis during the rollout of Red Arrow 14/Dedication of the McClane Loop at PTM. You probably don't remember me though. The one who I am most curious about is Herb. He was a PAT motorman back in the days where I first started exploring what was left of the trolley lines. I always paid attention to who the operator was and I'm just wondering if his photo will help jar my memory. I would be willing to send a photo of myself and would hope the rest of you would do the same. Mark P.S.- The following is a list of people who I have either met or have photos of: Fred III Ed Lybarger Dennis Cramer Bob Dietrich Bob Rathke(photo only) Ken Josephson(photo only) Derrick Brashier(spell check) John Bromley(no longer on the list) Jerry Matsick(no longer on the list) The whole gang at PTM Tom Phillips(don't think he's on the list any more) Russ Jackson Roger Jenkins(haven't heard from in a long time) And if I'm forgetting anyone, I apologize. -- "Dennis F. Cramer" wrote: There are pictures of me and one of my trombones on the PTM website courtesy of Ed Lybarger & John Polyak. It would be nice to know what all of us look (or looked)like! I would like to see a pic of Fred 3 shoveling coal at Strasburg. Dennis Fred Cramer Trombone Herb Brannon -- Attached file removed by Ecartis and put at URL below -- -- Type: image/pjpeg -- Desc: 2426707947-HRB Photo.jpg -- Size: 366k (375268 bytes) -- URL : http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/HRB% 20Photo.jpg Herb Brannon