<div dir="ltr">Just called PTM. My membership was in the computer, however, someone at PTM had checked the "no" box pertaining to if I did or did not want to receive Trolley Fare. So, how many "Trolley Fare's" am I owed since October 1st ?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Herb Brannon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hrbran@cavtel.net" target="_blank">hrbran@cavtel.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Then that means that I am not on the mailing list for some reason. I'll call them right now.<div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Derrick Brashear <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shadow@gmail.com" target="_blank">shadow@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">my trolley fare arrived like 6-8 days ago.<br>
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Derrick<br>
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On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:52, Herb Brannon <<a href="mailto:hrbran@cavtel.net" target="_blank">hrbran@cavtel.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Dennis,<br>
> I should be at PTM as many days as I feel like this coming season. I should<br>
> be moved to Pittsburgh by then. I look forward to you being my instructor<br>
> for PTM Operator Training ;-)<br>
><br>
> Ed,<br>
> These days it's good to avoid "management involvement" at a lot of places.<br>
> All that's heard is "mo money, mo money, mo money, and mo money". The thing<br>
> to remember is that "greed" is one of the "seven deadly ones". The shining<br>
> example of this is the so-called "Lakeshore Electric Railway" (nee Columbia<br>
> Park operation). The "high dollar crowd" who were the overseers of that<br>
> operation got their "pocket change" to see them through the<br>
> recession/depression. Now, however, nothing remains of what could have been<br>
> something good. I hope they all had a good vacation with that money.<br>
><br>
> As long as the subject is PTM, since October, 2012 has PTM issued any<br>
> "Trolley Fare" magazines or any other mailings to members?<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <<a href="mailto:ehlybarger@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ehlybarger@yahoo.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I have not been getting list mail for some time now, and finally asked<br>
>> Derrick to change my address to another email account that I keep for such<br>
>> occurrences. So far, it's working!<br>
>><br>
>> Herb, this is the first time I've seen this policy (I'm deliberately<br>
>> avoiding any management involvement, except for Archives, at PTM these<br>
>> days), but it's important to note that it applies mostly to commercial uses<br>
>> of the images. The other is a fee-raising thing (we're getting pretty<br>
>> mercenary in this department) for those whose egos demand exclusive use of<br>
>> a<br>
>> car on which they can be photographed. So as long as you're not selling<br>
>> the<br>
>> photos, there's no restriction on member photography.<br>
>><br>
>> Ed<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org" target="_blank">pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org" target="_blank">pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org</a>] On Behalf Of DF<br>
>> Cramer<br>
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 AM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org" target="_blank">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Just to clarify: the fee is for specific events. Come down this spring and<br>
>> take pictures to your hearts content. Our service during the Washington<br>
>> County Fair has become a traction fan holiday.<br>
>><br>
>> Dennis F. Cramer<br>
>> <a href="http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/" target="_blank">http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/</a><br>
>><br>
>>> From: <a href="mailto:hrbran@cavtel.net" target="_blank">hrbran@cavtel.net</a><br>
>>> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:15:54 -0500<br>
>>> To: <a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org" target="_blank">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</a><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like<br>
>>> Ed)<br>
>>><br>
>>> That's good to know. I was becoming concerned when I noticed<br>
>> "substantial"<br>
>>> increases in fees for all services at PTM then saw the $100 permit<br>
>>> required for taking photos.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:03 AM, DF Cramer<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:alto_trombone@hotmail.com" target="_blank">alto_trombone@hotmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Herb,<br>
>>>> Read the entire policy------<br>
>>>> Photo Sessions at Pennsylvania Trolley Museum<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> CHOOSE YOUR FAVORITE VINTAGE STREETCAR - Choose from any of our<br>
>>>> operational streetcars for stunning interior and exterior photo shots.<br>
>>>> Favorite trolley backdrops are the beautiful Streetcar Named Desire,<br>
>>>> our Rio de Janeiro Open Car, and the meticulously restored 1917<br>
>>>> Pittsburgh Car<br>
>>>> 4398 among many others. Your streetcar photo session will be hosted<br>
>>>> by a uniformed streetcar operator from the Pennsylvania Trolley Museum.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Streetcar Photo Session - $100 per Hour Private use of a vintage<br>
>>>> streetcar with motorman for photo session<br>
>>>> Available: April through December by appointment<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> PHOTOGRAPHY POLICY<br>
>>>> Pennsylvania Trolley Museum encourages photography and the use of<br>
>>>> video cameras for personal use. Sale, rental, or other commercial<br>
>>>> use (other than for editorial use) is prohibited without prior<br>
>>>> written authorization, including signing a single-use license<br>
>> agreement,<br>
>> and payment of fee.<br>
>>>> Commercial photography includes, but is not limited to wedding<br>
>>>> photography, professional portraits, modeling, media, and images for<br>
>> resale in any form.<br>
>>>> To schedule wedding and portrait photographs please contact Bill<br>
>>>> Belleno, Visitor Services Manager, call: <a href="tel:724-228-9256" value="+17242289256" target="_blank">724-228-9256</a> or email:<br>
>> vsm@pa-trolley.orgReservations are required one week in advance.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Note that commercial productions intended for broadcast will be<br>
>>>> handled on a case by case basis.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dennis F. Cramer<br>
>>>> <a href="http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/" target="_blank">http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:hrbran@cavtel.net" target="_blank">hrbran@cavtel.net</a><br>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:25:30 -0500<br>
>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@dementix.org" target="_blank">pittsburgh-railways@dementix.org</a><br>
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like<br>
>>>>> Ed)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I was just looking over the PTM website and came across a section<br>
>>>>> on that website which defies all comprehension. The sub-section is<br>
>>>>> titled "Photography Policy" and indicates that in order to take<br>
>>>>> photos PTM visitors must pay a fee of $100.00 per hour. You mean<br>
>>>>> to tell me that visitors to PTM are not permitted to take photos<br>
>>>>> unless they pay PTM<br>
>>>>> $100.00 per hour ?? I'm betting on someone "litigating" that rule.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> Herb Brannon<br>
>>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park<br>
>>>>><br>
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>>> Herb Brannon<br>
>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park<br>
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> Herb Brannon<br>
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Herb Brannon<br>In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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