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Herb,<div><br></div><div>If you have not done so, contact Lynne Thompson at the museum concerning training.<br><br><div>Dennis F. Cramer <br><a href="http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/" target="_blank">http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/</a></div><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> From: hrbran@cavtel.net<br>> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:28:49 -0500<br>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)<br>> <br>> Dennis,<br>> I should be at PTM as many days as I feel like this coming season. I should<br>> be moved to Pittsburgh by then. I look forward to you being my instructor<br>> for PTM Operator Training ;-)<br>> <br>> Ed,<br>> These days it's good to avoid "management involvement" at a lot of places.<br>> All that's heard is "mo money, mo money, mo money, and mo money". The thing<br>> to remember is that "greed" is one of the "seven deadly ones". The shining<br>> example of this is the so-called "Lakeshore Electric Railway" (nee Columbia<br>> Park operation). The "high dollar crowd" who were the overseers of that<br>> operation got their "pocket change" to see them through the<br>> recession/depression. Now, however, nothing remains of what could have been<br>> something good. I hope they all had a good vacation with that money.<br>> <br>> As long as the subject is PTM, since October, 2012 has PTM issued any<br>> "Trolley Fare" magazines or any other mailings to members?<br>> <br>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <ehlybarger@yahoo.com>wrote:<br>> <br>> > I have not been getting list mail for some time now, and finally asked<br>> > Derrick to change my address to another email account that I keep for such<br>> > occurrences. So far, it's working!<br>> ><br>> > Herb, this is the first time I've seen this policy (I'm deliberately<br>> > avoiding any management involvement, except for Archives, at PTM these<br>> > days), but it's important to note that it applies mostly to commercial uses<br>> > of the images. The other is a fee-raising thing (we're getting pretty<br>> > mercenary in this department) for those whose egos demand exclusive use of<br>> > a<br>> > car on which they can be photographed. So as long as you're not selling<br>> > the<br>> > photos, there's no restriction on member photography.<br>> ><br>> > Ed<br>> ><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of DF<br>> > Cramer<br>> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 AM<br>> > To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Just to clarify: the fee is for specific events. Come down this spring and<br>> > take pictures to your hearts content. Our service during the Washington<br>> > County Fair has become a traction fan holiday.<br>> ><br>> > Dennis F. Cramer<br>> > http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/<br>> ><br>> > > From: hrbran@cavtel.net<br>> > > Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:15:54 -0500<br>> > > To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like<br>> > > Ed)<br>> > ><br>> > > That's good to know. I was becoming concerned when I noticed<br>> > "substantial"<br>> > > increases in fees for all services at PTM then saw the $100 permit<br>> > > required for taking photos.<br>> > ><br>> > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:03 AM, DF Cramer<br>> > <alto_trombone@hotmail.com>wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > Herb,<br>> > > > Read the entire policy------<br>> > > > Photo Sessions at Pennsylvania Trolley Museum<br>> > > ><br>> > > > CHOOSE YOUR FAVORITE VINTAGE STREETCAR - Choose from any of our<br>> > > > operational streetcars for stunning interior and exterior photo shots.<br>> > > > Favorite trolley backdrops are the beautiful Streetcar Named Desire,<br>> > > > our Rio de Janeiro Open Car, and the meticulously restored 1917<br>> > > > Pittsburgh Car<br>> > > > 4398 among many others. Your streetcar photo session will be hosted<br>> > > > by a uniformed streetcar operator from the Pennsylvania Trolley Museum.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Streetcar Photo Session - $100 per Hour Private use of a vintage<br>> > > > streetcar with motorman for photo session<br>> > > > Available: April through December by appointment<br>> > > ><br>> > > > PHOTOGRAPHY POLICY<br>> > > > Pennsylvania Trolley Museum encourages photography and the use of<br>> > > > video cameras for personal use. Sale, rental, or other commercial<br>> > > > use (other than for editorial use) is prohibited without prior<br>> > > > written authorization, including signing a single-use license<br>> > agreement,<br>> > and payment of fee.<br>> > > > Commercial photography includes, but is not limited to wedding<br>> > > > photography, professional portraits, modeling, media, and images for<br>> > resale in any form.<br>> > > > To schedule wedding and portrait photographs please contact Bill<br>> > > > Belleno, Visitor Services Manager, call: 724-228-9256 or email:<br>> > vsm@pa-trolley.orgReservations are required one week in advance.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Note that commercial productions intended for broadcast will be<br>> > > > handled on a case by case basis.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Dennis F. Cramer<br>> > > > http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/<br>> > > ><br>> > > > > From: hrbran@cavtel.net<br>> > > > > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:25:30 -0500<br>> > > > > To: pittsburgh-railways@dementix.org<br>> > > > > Subject: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like<br>> > > > > Ed)<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > I was just looking over the PTM website and came across a section<br>> > > > > on that website which defies all comprehension. The sub-section is<br>> > > > > titled "Photography Policy" and indicates that in order to take<br>> > > > > photos PTM visitors must pay a fee of $100.00 per hour. You mean<br>> > > > > to tell me that visitors to PTM are not permitted to take photos<br>> > > > > unless they pay PTM<br>> > > > > $100.00 per hour ?? I'm betting on someone "litigating" that rule.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > --<br>> > > > > Herb Brannon<br>> > > > > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was<br>> > > > > scrubbed...<br>> > > > > URL:<br>> > > > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachment<br>> > > > s/20130126/1787fab2/attachment.html<br>> > > > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was<br>> > > > scrubbed...<br>> > > > URL:<br>> > > > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachment<br>> > > > s/20130126/614129d8/attachment.html<br>> > > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > --<br>> > > Herb Brannon<br>> > > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was<br>> > > scrubbed...<br>> > > URL:<br>> > > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/<br>> > > 20130127/6b7dd099/attachment.html<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > URL:<br>> ><br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/201301<br>> > 28/d7fea186/attachment.html<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Herb Brannon<br>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130128/115a7598/attachment.html <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br></div></div> </div>
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