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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Right the first time.<BR> <BR>Today Gulf is just another convenience store, probably owned/franchised by <em>Cumberland Farms</em> located in New England. The "real" Gulf Oil disappeared when it was merged into Chevron (?) around 1984/5 (?) Most of the "real" Gulf retail gas stations were eventually rebranded Chevron.<br> <BR>Chevron sold the North American license to Gulf Oil logo and some other products to <em>Cumberland Farms </em>about a decade ago. The current Gulf brand is used for marketing purposes. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> From: hrbran@cavtel.net<br>> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 18:40:58 -0400<br>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<br>> <br>> Another business I though had long bit the dust is alive and well on<br>> Brownsville Road. Just north (?) (toward South Side) of Maytide Street is a<br>> full-service Gulf Oil Station still with the Orange, Blue and White<br>> electric signs and gasoline pumps dispensing "Good Gulf" regular. I though<br>> they had gone out of business years ago. Also, just beside my apartment<br>> building is a storefront which used to be Bard's Dairy. Now it's a dentist<br>> office. The "Boron" Oil Company station inside Brentwood Loop is now a tax<br>> and accounting office. The loop is still busy with buses, however. Many<br>> times I see two or three buses sitting in the loop consuming recovery time<br>> just as the PCC's did. During AM peak periods the 51-Carrick buses sit in<br>> one lane and the 51L-Carrick via Tunnel buses sit in the second lane just<br>> as the PCC's did.<br>> <br>> While so much has changed in Pittsburgh over the years, still, so very much<br>> as remained as it always was. This gives the city it's<br>> character............something other cities wish they had.<br>> <br>> Attached is the "view from the veranda", or without embellishment, we're<br>> looking off the back porch toward a portion of Carrick/Brentwood. Bear in<br>> mind my apartment is on the 2nd floor on the Brownsville Rd side and on the<br>> 4th floor from the Lachman Way side. Definitely Pittsburgh.<br>> <br>> <br>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dwight Long <dwightlong@verizon.net> wrote:<br>> <br>> ><br>> > Fred<br>> ><br>> > Ad nauseam would be more what I felt like after "celebrating" at the Brass<br>> > Rail and had to drive back to Indiana. Fortunately I had a co-driver.<br>> ><br>> > Dwight<br>> ><br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><br>> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"<br>> > <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 2:15 PM<br>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old<br>> > andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Why did I know that, once started, this was going to go on ad infinitum?<br>> > :<)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:<br>> ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Dwight,<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > There was a Brass Rail on E. Ohio St. Did you skip the se cond half of<br>> > > the "last trolley day" on 4/3 0/66?<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > That night I rode the last 21-Fine view car out to Fineview and back to<br>> > > downtown, then caught the last 6/14 trolley and rode out to Avalon and<br>> > > back. I took the attached photo as a group of fans on Penn Ave. made<br>> > > the dash to board 1799.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Bob<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net><br>> > > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"<br>> > > <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> > > Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:43:33 AM<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and<br>> > > abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Bob<br>> > ><br>> > > My last (somewhat faint) memory of the Brass Rail is consuming mass<br>> > > quantities of beer in one of their outlets after I had ridden the last<br>> > > ever Rt. 21 Fineview car,<br>> > ><br>> > > Dwight<br>> > ><br>> > > From: Bob Rathke<br>> > > Sent: Monday, 08 April, 2013 12:23<br>> > > To: Western PA Trolley discussion<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and<br>> > > abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Fred,<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > While you're remembering Fifth and Liberty Avenues, don't forget Frank &<br>> > > Seder, Spear and May Stern department/furniture stores. Also 5&10's G.C.<br>> > > Murphy and Grants; the Brass Rail and Bards (similar to Isaly's, but<br>> > Bard<br>> > > stores were in the neighborhoods, not downtown ).<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > My grandmother worked at Rosenbaums before she was married. The<br>> > Rosenbaum<br>> > > building was a solid structure , and it took months to dem olish it<br>> > before<br>> > > they could start building the parking garage that's on the site now. My<br>> > > grandfather worked at Boggs & Buhl and was an office boy for R.H. Boggs,<br>> > > but his family encouraged him to leave the store and learn a trade. The<br>> > > R.H. Boggs home on the Mexican War Streets is now a B&B.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > My paternal great grandfather was fire engineer at the City of Allegheny<br>> > > fire station No. 2 on Concord St. from 1868 to the early 1900's (see<br>> > > attached photo). I also have a photo of him working in Johnstown after<br>> > > the 1889 flood (I assume that Allegheny sent fireman to Johnstown to help<br>> > > out). And I have copies of his Civil War records and pension.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > About the Brass Rail: the restaurants had a large (probably 5 'X10 ')<br>> > > copy of a painting behi nd the bar. The painting depicted a 1930-style<br>> > > bus, but the bus was five stories tall and looked like a cruise ship on<br>> > > wheels. The title of the painting was, "A bus salesman's dream in 1960".<br>> > > I wonder if that painting survived the restaurants.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Bob<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><br>> > > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"<br>> > > <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> > > Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:43:23 AM<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and abandoned<br>> > > buildings in Western Pa.<br>> > ><br>> > > You know you are old, Bob, when someone asks "What's a McCrorys?" Think<br>> > > of all those old store names that are no longer there. I will confine<br>> > > myself to western Pennsylvania … Woolworths, Gimbels, Kaufmans, Joseph<br>> > > Horne, Rosenbaums, Boggs and Buhl, Isalys.<br>> > ><br>> > > Yup…. And you now have to be in your 40s to understand what communism<br>> > > was like in eastern Europe. In a way, I guess I am rather glad that I<br>> > > vacationed in East Germany before the wall came down and saw it. I<br>> > > guess, as ugly as history can be, I guess it was also good for me that I<br>> > > experienced the segregated southern states … black and white drinking<br>> > > fountains, toilets, restaurants, etc.<br>> > ><br>> > > Now, how the hell do I explain to my granddaughter and her husband, who<br>> > is<br>> > > of African descent, what it would have been like living in this country<br>> > 60<br>> > > or more years ago?<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >> Here's a Facebook page containing photos of old and abondoned structures<br>> > >> in Western Pa. It contains a few rail photos. I've posted some of my<br>> > >> 1956-82 photos in the section for, "Recent posts by others".<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >> See:<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967?sk=photos#!/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >> -------------- next part --------------<br>> > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > >> URL:<br>> > >><br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130404/4c24eaae/attachment.html<br>> > >> _______________________________________________<br>> > >> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > >> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > >> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > URL:<br>> > ><br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/c9423044/attachment.html<br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > Name: JohnOtto1868.tif<br>> > > Type: image/tiff<br>> > > Size: 121491 bytes<br>> > > Desc: not available<br>> > > Url :<br>> > ><br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/c9423044/attachment.tif<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > URL:<br>> > ><br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/38606f13/attachment.html<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > URL:<br>> > ><br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/d8b98bbc/attachment.html<br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > Name: PAT1799-6-14Downtown043066.JPG<br>> > > Type: image/jpeg<br>> > > Size: 81752 bytes<br>> > > Desc: not available<br>> > > Url :<br>> > ><br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/d8b98bbc/attachment.jpe<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Herb Brannon<br>> Back In The Burgh !<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/f9ebe576/attachment.html <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> Name: ViewFromVeranda01.JPG<br>> Type: image/jpeg<br>> Size: 1759690 bytes<br>> Desc: not available<br>> Url : http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/f9ebe576/attachment.jpe <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br></div> </div>
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