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<P>"The second half of the last trolley day" referred to the last regularly scheduled trip on 6/14-Avalon which occured immediately following the last regularly scheduled trip on 21-Fineview..</P>
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<P>The last regular service day for 21 and 14/6 was Saturday, April 30, 1966. The last car on 21 arrived back downtown from Fineview a little before Midnight, and then went to Tunnel CH. A few minutes later the last regular service car on 14/6 left downtown for Avalon, and returned back downtown around 2am on Sunday, May 1.</P>
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<P>I was on the last regular service trips on both 21 and 6/14. I've heard that there was a charter that ran on Finview after the last regular service trip there, but I don't know when that occured. I'm not sure if there was also an after-service charter on 6/14.</P>
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<P>Bob <BR><BR></P>
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<P><B>From: </B>"Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, April 8, 2013 2:32:30 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR><BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR>Not sure to what you refer. I was on the last trip of Rt. 21 and then a few <BR>of us retired to a Brass Rail in the Triangle (on Liberty or Penn??) to cry <BR>in our beer over the loss. What was the "last trolley day?" Some <BR>enthusiast tour?<BR><BR>I'm sending this from my portable and don't have my records at hand or could <BR>tell you the exact date. It was in 1966 for sure.<BR><BR>Dwight<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke@comcast.net><BR>To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <BR><pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 1:17 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old <BR>andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR><BR><BR>><BR>><BR>> Dwight,<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> There was a Brass Rail on E. Ohio St. Did you skip the se cond half of the <BR>> "last trolley day" on 4/3 0/66?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> That night I rode the last 21-Fine view car out to Fineview and back to <BR>> downtown, then caught the last 6/14 trolley and rode out to Avalon and <BR>> back. I took the attached photo as a group of fans on Penn Ave. made the <BR>> dash to board 1799.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Bob<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>><BR>><BR>> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net><BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <BR>> <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:43:33 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and <BR>> abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Bob<BR>><BR>> My last (somewhat faint) memory of the Brass Rail is consuming mass <BR>> quantities of beer in one of their outlets after I had ridden the last <BR>> ever Rt. 21 Fineview car,<BR>><BR>> Dwight<BR>><BR>> From: Bob Rathke<BR>> Sent: Monday, 08 April, 2013 12:23<BR>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and <BR>> abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Fred,<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> While you're remembering Fifth and Liberty Avenues, don't forget Frank & <BR>> Seder, Spear and May Stern department/furniture stores. Also 5&10's G.C. <BR>> Murphy and Grants; the Brass Rail and Bards (similar to Isaly's, but Bard <BR>> stores were in the neighborhoods, not downtown ).<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> My grandmother worked at Rosenbaums before she was married. The Rosenbaum <BR>> building was a solid structure , and it took months to dem olish it before <BR>> they could start building the parking garage that's on the site now. My <BR>> grandfather worked at Boggs & Buhl and was an office boy for R.H. Boggs, <BR>> but his family encouraged him to leave the store and learn a trade. The <BR>> R.H. Boggs home on the Mexican War Streets is now a B&B.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> My paternal great grandfather was fire engineer at the City of Allegheny <BR>> fire station No. 2 on Concord St. from 1868 to the early 1900's (see <BR>> attached photo). I also have a photo of him working in Johnstown after the <BR>> 1889 flood (I assume that Allegheny sent fireman to Johnstown to help <BR>> out). And I have copies of his Civil War records and pension.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> About the Brass Rail: the restaurants had a large (probably 5 'X10 ') copy <BR>> of a painting behi nd the bar. The painting depicted a 1930-style bus, but <BR>> the bus was five stories tall and looked like a cruise ship on wheels. The <BR>> title of the painting was, "A bus salesman's dream in 1960". I wonder if <BR>> that painting survived the restaurants.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Bob<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>><BR>><BR>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <BR>> <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:43:23 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and abandoned <BR>> buildings in Western Pa.<BR>><BR>> You know you are old, Bob, when someone asks "What's a McCrorys?" Think of <BR>> all those old store names that are no longer there. I will confine myself <BR>> to western Pennsylvania … Woolworths, Gimbels, Kaufmans, Joseph Horne, <BR>> Rosenbaums, Boggs and Buhl, Isalys.<BR>><BR>> Yup…. And you now have to be in your 40s to understand what communism was <BR>> like in eastern Europe. In a way, I guess I am rather glad that I <BR>> vacationed in East Germany before the wall came down and saw it. I guess, <BR>> as ugly as history can be, I guess it was also good for me that I <BR>> experienced the segregated southern states … black and white drinking <BR>> fountains, toilets, restaurants, etc.<BR>><BR>> Now, how the hell do I explain to my granddaughter and her husband, who is <BR>> of African descent, what it would have been like living in this country 60 <BR>> or more years ago?<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Here's a Facebook page containing photos of old and abondoned structures <BR>>> in Western Pa. It contains a few rail photos. 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