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<B>From: </B>"Bob Rathke" <bobrathke@comcast.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, April 8, 2013 6:05:40 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Last car on 6/14 Avalon<BR><BR>
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<P>The last trip on 6/14-Avalon was very crowded. At the Avalon loop, passengers left the trolley (1799) for brief remarks by Avalon officials, and then we re-boarded for the (need I say "quiet"?) trip back downtown. </P>
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<P>I took the attached photo as the riders were starting to re-board 1799 in Avalon. I believe that's John Dameron in the black coat talking to the motorman. Time was around 1:00 am on Sunday, May 1, 1966.</P>
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<P><B>From: </B>"Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, April 8, 2013 4:19:13 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of oldandabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR><BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR>Thanks for that clarification.<BR><BR>I did not ride any trip on 6/14 on that day. Went right to the Brass Rail <BR>upon return of the last 21 trip, then split for Hoosierland.<BR><BR>Dwight<BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke@comcast.net><BR>To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <BR><pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 4:58 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of <BR>oldandabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR><BR><BR>><BR>><BR>> Dwight,<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "The second half of the last trolley day" referred to the last regularly <BR>> scheduled trip on 6/14-Avalon which occured immediately following the last <BR>> regularly scheduled trip on 21-Fineview..<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> The last regular service day for 21 and 14/6 was Saturday, April 30, 1966. <BR>> The last car on 21 arrived back downtown from Fineview a little before <BR>> Midnight, and then went to Tunnel CH. A few minutes later the last regular <BR>> service car on 14/6 left downtown for Avalon, and returned back downtown <BR>> around 2am on Sunday, May 1.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> I was on the last regular service trips on both 21 and 6/14. I 've heard <BR>> that there was a charter that ran on Finview after the last regular <BR>> service trip there, but I don't know when that occured . I'm not sure if <BR>> there was also an after-service charter on 6/14.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Bob<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>><BR>><BR>> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net><BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <BR>> <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 2:32:30 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old <BR>> andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Bob<BR>><BR>> Not sure to what you refer. I was on the last trip of Rt. 21 and then a <BR>> few<BR>> of us retired to a Brass Rail in the Triangle (on Liberty or Penn??) to <BR>> cry<BR>> in our beer over the loss. What was the "last trolley day?" Some<BR>> enthusiast tour?<BR>><BR>> I'm sending this from my portable and don't have my records at hand or <BR>> could<BR>> tell you the exact date. It was in 1966 for sure.<BR>><BR>> Dwight<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke@comcast.net><BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"<BR>> <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 1:17 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old<BR>> andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR>><BR>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Dwight,<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> There was a Brass Rail on E. Ohio St. Did you skip the se cond half of <BR>>> the<BR>>> "last trolley day" on 4/3 0/66?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> That night I rode the last 21-Fine view car out to Fineview and back to<BR>>> downtown, then caught the last 6/14 trolley and rode out to Avalon and<BR>>> back. I took the attached photo as a group of fans on Penn Ave. made the<BR>>> dash to board 1799.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Bob<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net><BR>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"<BR>>> <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:43:33 AM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and<BR>>> abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Bob<BR>>><BR>>> My last (somewhat faint) memory of the Brass Rail is consuming mass<BR>>> quantities of beer in one of their outlets after I had ridden the last<BR>>> ever Rt. 21 Fineview car,<BR>>><BR>>> Dwight<BR>>><BR>>> From: Bob Rathke<BR>>> Sent: Monday, 08 April, 2013 12:23<BR>>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and<BR>>> abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Fred,<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> While you're remembering Fifth and Liberty Avenues, don't forget Frank &<BR>>> Seder, Spear and May Stern department/furniture stores. Also 5&10's G.C.<BR>>> Murphy and Grants; the Brass Rail and Bards (similar to Isaly's, but Bard<BR>>> stores were in the neighborhoods, not downtown ).<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> My grandmother worked at Rosenbaums before she was married. The Rosenbaum<BR>>> building was a solid structure , and it took months to dem olish it <BR>>> before<BR>>> they could start building the parking garage that's on the site now. My<BR>>> grandfather worked at Boggs & Buhl and was an office boy for R.H. Boggs,<BR>>> but his family encouraged him to leave the store and learn a trade. The<BR>>> R.H. Boggs home on the Mexican War Streets is now a B&B.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> My paternal great grandfather was fire engineer at the City of Allegheny<BR>>> fire station No. 2 on Concord St. from 1868 to the early 1900's (see<BR>>> attached photo). I also have a photo of him working in Johnstown after <BR>>> the<BR>>> 1889 flood (I assume that Allegheny sent fireman to Johnstown to help<BR>>> out). And I have copies of his Civil War records and pension.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> About the Brass Rail: the restaurants had a large (probably 5 'X10 ') <BR>>> copy<BR>>> of a painting behi nd the bar. The painting depicted a 1930-style bus, <BR>>> but<BR>>> the bus was five stories tall and looked like a cruise ship on wheels. <BR>>> The<BR>>> title of the painting was, "A bus salesman's dream in 1960". I wonder if<BR>>> that painting survived the restaurants.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Bob<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><BR>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"<BR>>> <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:43:23 AM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and abandoned<BR>>> buildings in Western Pa.<BR>>><BR>>> You know you are old, Bob, when someone asks "What's a McCrorys?" Think <BR>>> of<BR>>> all those old store names that are no longer there. I will confine myself<BR>>> to western Pennsylvania … Woolworths, Gimbels, Kaufmans, Joseph Horne,<BR>>> Rosenbaums, Boggs and Buhl, Isalys.<BR>>><BR>>> Yup…. And you now have to be in your 40s to understand what communism was<BR>>> like in eastern Europe. In a way, I guess I am rather glad that I<BR>>> vacationed in East Germany before the wall came down and saw it. I guess,<BR>>> as ugly as history can be, I guess it was also good for me that I<BR>>> experienced the segregated southern states … black and white drinking<BR>>> fountains, toilets, restaurants, etc.<BR>>><BR>>> Now, how the hell do I explain to my granddaughter and her husband, who <BR>>> is<BR>>> of African descent, what it would have been like living in this country <BR>>> 60<BR>>> or more years ago?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> Here's a Facebook page containing photos of old and abondoned structures<BR>>>> in Western Pa. It contains a few rail photos. I've posted some of my<BR>>>> 1956-82 photos in the section for, "Recent posts by others".<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> See:<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967?sk=photos#!/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>>>> URL:<BR>>>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130404/4c24eaae/attachment.html<BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>>>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>>>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>>> URL:<BR>>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/c9423044/attachment.html<BR>>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<BR>>> Name: JohnOtto1868.tif<BR>>> Type: image/tiff<BR>>> Size: 121491 bytes<BR>>> Desc: not available<BR>>> Url :<BR>>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/c9423044/attachment.tif<BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>>> URL:<BR>>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/38606f13/attachment.html<BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>>> URL:<BR>>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/d8b98bbc/attachment.html<BR>>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<BR>>> Name: PAT1799-6-14Downtown043066.JPG<BR>>> Type: image/jpeg<BR>>> Size: 81752 bytes<BR>>> Desc: not available<BR>>> Url :<BR>>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/d8b98bbc/attachment.jpe<BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: <BR>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/3fb87d9f/attachment.html<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR>> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR></P></DIV></div>
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