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<P><B>From: </B>"Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, April 8, 2013 1:15:49 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.<BR><BR>Why did I know that, once started, this was going to go on ad infinitum? :<)<BR><BR><BR>On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Dwight, <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> There was a Brass Rail on E. Ohio St. Did you skip the se cond half of the "last trolley day" on 4/3 0/66? <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> That night I rode the last 21-Fine view car out to Fineview and back to downtown, then caught the last 6/14 trolley and rode out to Avalon and back. I took the attached photo as a group of fans on Penn Ave. made the dash to board 1799. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Bob <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net> <BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org> <BR>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:43:33 AM <BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and abandonedbuildings in Western Pa. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Bob <BR>> <BR>> My last (somewhat faint) memory of the Brass Rail is consuming mass quantities of beer in one of their outlets after I had ridden the last ever Rt. 21 Fineview car, <BR>> <BR>> Dwight <BR>> <BR>> From: Bob Rathke <BR>> Sent: Monday, 08 April, 2013 12:23 <BR>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and abandonedbuildings in Western Pa. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Fred, <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> While you're remembering Fifth and Liberty Avenues, don't forget Frank & Seder, Spear and May Stern department/furniture stores. Also 5&10's G.C. Murphy and Grants; the Brass Rail and Bards (similar to Isaly's, but Bard stores were in the neighborhoods, not downtown ). <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> My grandmother worked at Rosenbaums before she was married. The Rosenbaum building was a solid structure , and it took months to dem olish it before they could start building the parking garage that's on the site now. My grandfather worked at Boggs & Buhl and was an office boy for R.H. Boggs, but his family encouraged him to leave the store and learn a trade. The R.H. Boggs home on the Mexican War Streets is now a B&B. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> My paternal great grandfather was fire engineer at the City of Allegheny fire station No. 2 on Concord St. from 1868 to the early 1900's (see attached photo). I also have a photo of him working in Johnstown after the 1889 flood (I assume that Allegheny sent fireman to Johnstown to help out). And I have copies of his Civil War records and pension. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> About the Brass Rail: the restaurants had a large (probably 5 'X10 ') copy of a painting behi nd the bar. The painting depicted a 1930-style bus, but the bus was five stories tall and looked like a cruise ship on wheels. The title of the painting was, "A bus salesman's dream in 1960". I wonder if that painting survived the restaurants. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Bob <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net> <BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org> <BR>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:43:23 AM <BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and abandoned buildings in Western Pa. <BR>> <BR>> You know you are old, Bob, when someone asks "What's a McCrorys?" Think of all those old store names that are no longer there. I will confine myself to western Pennsylvania … Woolworths, Gimbels, Kaufmans, Joseph Horne, Rosenbaums, Boggs and Buhl, Isalys. <BR>> <BR>> Yup…. And you now have to be in your 40s to understand what communism was like in eastern Europe. In a way, I guess I am rather glad that I vacationed in East Germany before the wall came down and saw it. I guess, as ugly as history can be, I guess it was also good for me that I experienced the segregated southern states … black and white drinking fountains, toilets, restaurants, etc. <BR>> <BR>> Now, how the hell do I explain to my granddaughter and her husband, who is of African descent, what it would have been like living in this country 60 or more years ago? <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rathke wrote: <BR>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> Here's a Facebook page containing photos of old and abondoned structures in Western Pa. It contains a few rail photos. I've posted some of my 1956-82 photos in the section for, "Recent posts by others". <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> See: <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967?sk=photos#!/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967 <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... <BR>>> URL: http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130404/4c24eaae/attachment.html <BR>>> _______________________________________________ <BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list <BR>>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org <BR>>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list <BR>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org <BR>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... <BR>> URL: http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/c9423044/attachment.html <BR>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... <BR>> Name: JohnOtto1868.tif <BR>> Type: image/tiff <BR>> Size: 121491 bytes <BR>> Desc: not available <BR>> Url : http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/c9423044/attachment.tif <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list <BR>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org <BR>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... <BR>> URL: http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/38606f13/attachment.html <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list <BR>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org <BR>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/d8b98bbc/attachment.html <BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> Name: PAT1799-6-14Downtown043066.JPG<BR>> Type: image/jpeg<BR>> Size: 81752 bytes<BR>> Desc: not available<BR>> Url : http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130408/d8b98bbc/attachment.jpe <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<BR>Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<BR></P></div>
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