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<div>Well, at least the wings aren’t <font color="#FF0000">red!!</font> I agree about climate control and storage out of the weather.</div>
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<div>See it in my truck vs. my wife's car. Truck kept outside very rusty, car garage kept not rusty.</div>
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<div>I think dew does an extreme amount of damage regarding rust. Just my opinion.</div>
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From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org [<a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org">mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org</a>] On Behalf Of Fred Schneider<br>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:00 PM<br>
To: Western PA Trolley discussion<br>
Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route 59</div>
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<div>Discussion was about how 1467 looked in the 1960s and today? I will attempt to attach a picture of it in the trolley display building at Arden (July 31, 2010) which does not do justice to all the rust ? you can stick your fingers into the car above the
anti-climber and there are far worse spots below the belt rail. Notice some of the skirting on the blind side of the lift guard has been cut off. Notice, that is, if Encartis doesn't say "Bye-Bye."</div>
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<div>I recall a conversation I had with Kurt Bell a few year ago. For those who don't know him, Kurt was, at time, the assistant curator in the state railroad museum at Strasburg, Pa. Today he has a different job with PHMC in Harrisburg. </div>
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<div>At the time of our conversation, PHMC was installing HVAC equipment in the large artifact display building. Kurt explained that proper temperature and humidity was just as important in caring for a locomotive or a coach as it is for a negative or a paper
document. Then he drew my attention to several old Pennsylvania Railroad coaches that the Strasburg Rail Road once used during my tenure as a fireman, hostler and brakeman on the railroad. One of them, 3556, was a beautiful coach with plush seats built
in 1886. We used to charge extra fare to ride in it. And we took good care of it. If any wood was rotten, we replaced it. But it has been sitting under roof at the railroad museum for about 30 or more years now and Kurt said he would be afraid to try
to yank it outside in the event of fire today for fear you might pull the end platforms off. That much damage just by sitting inside for 30 years? Kurt thought so. We used to drag those PRR coaches around at t!</div>
<div> he end of a 10-car train so they got plenty of abuse, even downhill behind the engine. Imagine the slack action. Here is a link to a photo of the car in question about 45 years ago when I was working there ? hell's bells, I might have even been making
all that smoke.</div>
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<div> <a href="http://www.godfatherrails.com/photos/pv.asp?pid=6">http://www.godfatherrails.com/photos/pv.asp?pid=6</a></div>
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<div>There is a lot less damage sitting inside than out in the rain but there is still damage if it is not maintained at a constant temperature and humidity all year long. </div>
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<div>And if all leads back to my premise that we cannot preserve everything we might like to save because there isn't enough money on the planet to keep all the crap. I would love to see 1467 repainted in that Clean Up Pittsburgh paint scheme but it would
also take a fortune just to replace all the cancerous steel. I just we need to be happy that we have 1138, 2711 and 1711 in operating condition at PTM. </div>
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<div>Yes, I did the PCC books but I am a generalist. There are other important things. I would much rather see the platform knees on the horse car rebuilt so they don't have to be held up with jacks. Maybe it is just as important that we explain that
Pittsburgh also had one of the last horse car operations in North America as it is to show a PCC. </div>
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<div>On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:05 PM, John Swindler wrote:</div>
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<div>> The difference between 20 years of rust (including a trip thru paint shop for 'v' front) - and seventy years of rust. </div>
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<div>>> From: <a href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net">fwschneider@comcast.net</a></div>
<div>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:37:54 -0400</div>
<div>>> To: <a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</a></div>
<div>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route 59</div>
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<div>>> Car looked very nice then ? quite a contrast to the bucket of rust at PTM today.</div>
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