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<DIV><FONT size=4>Bob</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Ref your second paragraph:&nbsp; Highly recommended that you 
do not mention that theory to any diehard Steeler fans.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bobrathke@comcast.net 
href="mailto:bobrathke@comcast.net">Bob Rathke</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 12 July, 2013 01:31</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org 
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley 
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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is a photo of the westbound P&amp;LE/Erie Pittsburgh-Cleveland Steel King at 
Aliqu ippa, PA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that I took on 6/15/57. 
<BR><BR><BR><BR>In my earlier post I&nbsp; neglected to mention that the PRR 
"Steeler' train names referred to the steel industries in Pittsburgh and 
Cleveland , and not to the Pittsburgh football team. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Also, over 
the years I have answered comments from nat ive, over age 80, Cleveland 
railfans&nbsp; who said that the PRR never had a station in downtown 
Cleveland....until I showed them my 1958 photo and scans of PRR timetables from 
that era. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Bob&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message 
-----<BR><BR><BR>From: "Dwight Long" &lt;dwightlong@verizon.net&gt; <BR>To: 
"Western PA Trolley discussion" &lt;pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org&gt; 
<BR>Cc: ge13031@yahoo.com, billvigrass@verizon.net <BR>Sent: Thursday, July 11, 
2013 11:29:58 PM <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 <BR><BR><BR>Herb 
<BR><BR>But they greeted the Morning Steeler with open arms? <BR><BR>The 
competing trains via P&amp;LE/ERIE were only slightly less offensive to hard 
core residents of the Forest City—they were called Steel Kings. <BR><BR>Dwight 
<BR><BR>From: Herb Brannon <BR>Sent: Thursday, 11 July, 2013 22:57 <BR>To: 
Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 <BR>Bob, 
<BR>I'm surprised that a train with the name, "Afternoon Steeler" was permitted 
<BR>inside Cleveland Union Terminal. <BR><BR><BR>On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:52 
PM, Bob Rathke &lt;bobrathke@comcast.net&gt; wrote: <BR><BR>&gt; I watched the 
first westbound train to leave Penn St ation on that bridge <BR>&gt; in 1955 - 
the Afternoon Steeler to Cleveland. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----- Original Message 
----- <BR>&gt; From: "Fred Schneider" &lt;fwschneider@comcast.net&gt; <BR>&gt; 
To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" &lt; <BR>&gt; 
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org&gt; <BR>&gt; Sent: Thursday, July 11, 
2013 3:26:38 PM <BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo&nbsp; Route72 <BR>&gt; 
<BR>&gt; Anyone else would have bought a 4-8-4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Change 
that.&nbsp;&nbsp; Anyone else with <BR>&gt; brains would have bought a 
diesel.&nbsp;&nbsp; Think of NP, GN, Southern, ACL, SAL, <BR>&gt; ATSF, even 
Reading … all those who proved during WW2 how well EMD's product <BR>&gt; 
worked. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Dwight 
Long wrote: <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Bob <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; 
Done so that T1 locos would not stall leaving the station westbound. 
<BR>&gt;&nbsp; The rigid frame caused the drivers to bind up on the curve, and 
most <BR>&gt; westbound trains with T1s had to be assisted by a snapper to get 
out of the <BR>&gt; station. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Of course before the 
project was finished, so were the T1s. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Dwight 
<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; From: Bob Rathke <BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, 11 
July, 2013 12:55 <BR>&gt; &gt; To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>&gt; &gt; 
Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 <BR>&gt; &gt; That bridge from the PRR station 
to the 6-track double-deck bridge over <BR>&gt; the Allegheny River was replaced 
by the current bridge (with a more gradual <BR>&gt; curve) in the spring of 
1955. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; &gt; 
From: "Raymond Lattner" &lt;rlattner@pa.gov&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; To: "Western PA 
Trolley discussion ( <BR>&gt; pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org)" &lt; 
<BR>&gt; pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: 
Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:22:33 AM <BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: [PRCo] PRCo&nbsp; 
Route72 <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Attached is a pic of route 72 Bloomfield 
car. Penn ave. downtown. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; From <BR>&gt; 
http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=hpicasc_ci;med=1;q1=AIS.2012.03;size=20;c=hpicasc;back=back1373559754;subview=detail;resnum=322;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-201203.1917.6503;viewid=20130206-HPICASC-0323.TIF# 
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