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<P>The station may have been gone in 1958, but the tracks, platforms and a train were still there when I took the photo. Were the station tracks used to store and assemble trains that would depart from E. 55th St.?</P>
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<P><B>From: </B>"Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR><B>Sent: </B>Friday, July 12, 2013 1:31:34 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [PRCo] PRR Cleveland Stations<BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR>The last train from the lakefront station, formerly Cleveland Union Depot, was 27 September 1953. After that PRR used a station at East 55th Street and Euclid Avenue, some two plus miles from downtown Cleveland. There is a well-illustrated write-up on the last train, plus a brief history of Union Depot, in the current Keystone. The old station was razed in 1959.<BR><BR>Dwight<BR><BR>From: Bob Rathke <BR>Sent: Friday, 12 July, 2013 00:03<BR>To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72<BR><BR><BR>There was also a Morning Steeler to Cleveland, and both the morning and afternoon eastbound trains were also called Steelers. <BR><BR><BR><BR>PRR passenger trains didn't use CUT - they operated out of the PRR station on West 6th St. and the lakeshore. Attached is a photo I took of that station on 7/8/58. The view is to the west, with Lake Erie in the background. Note the small PRR coach yard in the right center of the photo. <BR><BR><BR><BR>The PRR downtown station was closed about a year after this photo was taken, and after that PRR trains terminated at the E. 55th St. Station. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Non <BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR><BR><BR>From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran@cavtel.net> <BR>To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org> <BR>Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:57:27 PM <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 <BR><BR>Bob, <BR>I'm surprised that a train with the name, "Afternoon Steeler" was permitted <BR>inside Cleveland Union Terminal. <BR><BR><BR>On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke@comcast.net> wrote: <BR><BR>> I watched the first westbound train to leave Penn St ation on that bridge <BR>> in 1955 - the Afternoon Steeler to Cleveland. <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net> <BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" < <BR>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org> <BR>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:26:38 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 <BR>> <BR>> Anyone else would have bought a 4-8-4. Change that. Anyone else with <BR>> brains would have bought a diesel. Think of NP, GN, Southern, ACL, SAL, <BR>> ATSF, even Reading … all those who proved during WW2 how well EMD's product <BR>> worked. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Dwight Long wrote: <BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > Bob <BR>> > <BR>> > Done so that T1 locos would not stall leaving the station westbound. <BR>> The rigid frame caused the drivers to bind up on the curve, and most <BR>> westbound trains with T1s had to be assisted by a snapper to get out of the <BR>> station. <BR>> > <BR>> > Of course before the project was finished, so were the T1s. <BR>> > <BR>> > Dwight <BR>> > <BR>> > From: Bob Rathke <BR>> > Sent: Thursday, 11 July, 2013 12:55 <BR>> > To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 <BR>> > That bridge from the PRR station to the 6-track double-deck bridge over <BR>> the Allegheny River was replaced by the current bridge (with a more gradual <BR>> curve) in the spring of 1955. <BR>> > <BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "Raymond Lattner" <rlattner@pa.gov> <BR>> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion ( <BR>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org)" < <BR>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org> <BR>> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:22:33 AM <BR>> > Subject: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 <BR>> > <BR>> > Attached is a pic of route 72 Bloomfield car. 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