<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><P>Attached is a photo of the westbound P&LE/Erie Pittsburgh-Cleveland <U>Steel King</U> at Aliquippa, PA <U> </U>that I took on 6/15/57.</P>
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<P>In my earlier post I neglected to mention that the PRR "Steeler' train names referred to the steel industries in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, and not to the Pittsburgh football team.</P>
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<P>Also, over the years I have answered comments from native, over age 80, Cleveland railfans who said that the PRR never had a station in downtown Cleveland....until I showed them my 1958 photo and scans of PRR timetables from that era.</P>
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<P>Bob <BR><BR></P>
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<P><B>From: </B>"Dwight Long" <dwightlong@verizon.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR><B>Cc: </B>ge13031@yahoo.com, billvigrass@verizon.net<BR><B>Sent: </B>Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:29:58 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72<BR><BR><BR>Herb<BR><BR>But they greeted the Morning Steeler with open arms?<BR><BR>The competing trains via P&LE/ERIE were only slightly less offensive to hard core residents of the Forest City—they were called Steel Kings.<BR><BR>Dwight<BR><BR>From: Herb Brannon <BR>Sent: Thursday, 11 July, 2013 22:57<BR>To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72<BR>Bob,<BR>I'm surprised that a train with the name, "Afternoon Steeler" was permitted<BR>inside Cleveland Union Terminal.<BR><BR><BR>On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke@comcast.net> wrote:<BR><BR>> I watched the first westbound train to leave Penn St ation on that bridge<BR>> in 1955 - the Afternoon Steeler to Cleveland.<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <<BR>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:26:38 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72<BR>><BR>> Anyone else would have bought a 4-8-4. Change that. Anyone else with<BR>> brains would have bought a diesel. Think of NP, GN, Southern, ACL, SAL,<BR>> ATSF, even Reading … all those who proved during WW2 how well EMD's product<BR>> worked.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Dwight Long wrote:<BR>><BR>> ><BR>> > Bob<BR>> ><BR>> > Done so that T1 locos would not stall leaving the station westbound.<BR>> The rigid frame caused the drivers to bind up on the curve, and most<BR>> westbound trains with T1s had to be assisted by a snapper to get out of the<BR>> station.<BR>> ><BR>> > Of course before the project was finished, so were the T1s.<BR>> ><BR>> > Dwight<BR>> ><BR>> > From: Bob Rathke<BR>> > Sent: Thursday, 11 July, 2013 12:55<BR>> > To: Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72<BR>> > That bridge from the PRR station to the 6-track double-deck bridge over<BR>> the Allegheny River was replaced by the current bridge (with a more gradual<BR>> curve) in the spring of 1955.<BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Raymond Lattner" <rlattner@pa.gov><BR>> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion (<BR>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org)" <<BR>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:22:33 AM<BR>> > Subject: [PRCo] PRCo Route72<BR>> ><BR>> > Attached is a pic of route 72 Bloomfield car. 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