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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dennis</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>But even in those years there was a major rivalry between the
Steelers and the Browns. Folks in Pgh. would charter extra cars on the
P&LE (and perhaps the PRR as well) for fans going to Cleveland to take in
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=alto_trombone@hotmail.com
href="mailto:alto_trombone@hotmail.com">DF Cramer</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 12 July, 2013 07:19</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; DISPLAY: inline">Remember,
this was a time when professional football was not the institution in thinks it
is today and the Browns won championships in 1950, 54, 55, & 64. They came
in second in 51,52,53,57,65,68,69. The Steelers did not begin their legacy until
the 1970's long after any PRR (or PC) passenger service to Cleveland
ended.<BR><BR>Dennis F. Cramer <BR>http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/<BR><BR>>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:03:59 +0000<BR>> From:
bobrathke@comcast.net<BR>> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo
Route72<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> There was also a Morning Steeler to
Cleveland, and both the morning and afternoon eastbound trains were also called
Steelers. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> PRR passenger trains didn't use
CUT - they operated out of the PRR station on West 6th St. and the
lakeshore. Attached is a photo I took of that station on 7/8/58. The
view is to the west, with Lake Erie in the background. Note the small PRR
coach yard in the right center of the photo. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
The PRR downtown station was closed about a year after this photo was taken, and
after that PRR trains terminated at the E. 55th St. Station. <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Non <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran@cavtel.net>
<BR>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
<pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org> <BR>> Sent: Thursday, July
11, 2013 9:57:27 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 <BR>> <BR>>
Bob, <BR>> I'm surprised that a train with the name, "Afternoon Steeler" was
permitted <BR>> inside Cleveland Union Terminal. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke@comcast.net> wrote:
<BR>> <BR>> > I watched the first westbound train to leave Penn St
ation on that bridge <BR>> > in 1955 - the Afternoon Steeler to Cleveland.
<BR>> > <BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From:
"Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net> <BR>> > To: "Western PA
Trolley discussion" < <BR>> >
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org> <BR>> > Sent: Thursday, July
11, 2013 3:26:38 PM <BR>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72
<BR>> > <BR>> > Anyone else would have bought a
4-8-4. Change that. Anyone else with <BR>> >
brains would have bought a diesel. Think of NP, GN, Southern, ACL,
SAL, <BR>> > ATSF, even Reading … all those who proved during WW2 how well
EMD's product <BR>> > worked. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Dwight Long wrote: <BR>> >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Bob <BR>> > > <BR>> > >
Done so that T1 locos would not stall leaving the station westbound. <BR>>
> The rigid frame caused the drivers to bind up on the curve, and most
<BR>> > westbound trains with T1s had to be assisted by a snapper to get
out of the <BR>> > station. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Of
course before the project was finished, so were the T1s. <BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Dwight <BR>> > > <BR>> > > From: Bob Rathke
<BR>> > > Sent: Thursday, 11 July, 2013 12:55 <BR>> > > To:
Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo
Route72 <BR>> > > That bridge from the PRR station to the 6-track
double-deck bridge over <BR>> > the Allegheny River was replaced by the
current bridge (with a more gradual <BR>> > curve) in the spring of 1955.
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> >
> From: "Raymond Lattner" <rlattner@pa.gov> <BR>> > > To:
"Western PA Trolley discussion ( <BR>> >
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org)" < <BR>> >
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org> <BR>> > > Sent: Thursday,
July 11, 2013 11:22:33 AM <BR>> > > Subject: [PRCo] PRCo Route72
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Attached is a pic of route 72 Bloomfield
car. Penn ave. downtown. <BR>> > > <BR>> > >> From <BR>>
>
http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=hpicasc_ci;med=1;q1=AIS.2012.03;size=20;c=hpicasc;back=back1373559754;subview=detail;resnum=322;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-201203.1917.6503;viewid=20130206-HPICASC-0323.TIF#
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