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<DIV><FONT size=4>Herb</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>And meanwhile Jedlika has had several buildings erected to 
house (presumably) the more important members of his “fleet.” The Redbird has 
been under roof for ages (but with no protection on the sides).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>And ORM, which HAD a carbarn, tore it down.&nbsp; Their 
“fleet” resides under tarps.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=hrbran@cavtel.net 
href="mailto:hrbran@cavtel.net">Herb Brannon</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 17 July, 2013 21:18</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org 
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley 
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] How far off TRACK can we 
get????</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; DISPLAY: inline">The 
chances of any streetcar "surviving" Ron Jedlika's outdoor storage is<BR>Slim to 
none. Slim left town. NORM has been planning to start operating<BR>their 
streetcars since I was in high school. The place where they "store"<BR>their 
cars is also outdoors. Cars which they received in relatively good<BR>condition 
several decades ago are now rusty hulks. The one PRCo/PAT PCC<BR>they had looked 
real good when I saw it in 1993. The last time I saw it was<BR>2009 and it 
looked like the exterior of the USX (UPMC) (nee United States<BR>Steel) Building 
in downtown Pittsburgh. It was all rusted steel with very<BR>little paint 
remaining. If NORM waits much longer they won't have any cars<BR>to 
run.<BR><BR><BR>On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Bob Rathke 
&lt;bobrathke@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks, 
Herb.&nbsp; 20 years was a lo ng time to be a locker room and office<BR>&gt; 
after 30 years of revenue service , but I'm glad it -&nbsp; hopefully -<BR>&gt; 
survives.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Bob<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; From: "Herb Brannon" 
&lt;hrbran@cavtel.net&gt;<BR>&gt; To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" 
&lt;<BR>&gt; pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: 
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:48:44 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [PRCo] How far off 
TRACK can we get????<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Bob,<BR>&gt; The original number of the car 
sitting in your photo at Van Aken Yard was<BR>&gt; 2365. It was originally a 
Cleveland Railway Company trailer. It was<BR>&gt; delivered to Cleveland Railway 
on March 2, 1918 and continued as a<BR>&gt; Cleveland Railway trailer car until 
it was sold to Shaker Heights Rapid<BR>&gt; Transit on October 26, 1946. The car 
was originally built by G. C. Kuhlman<BR>&gt; Co. It was 49 feet long, had seats 
for 59 passengers, ran on Brill 67F<BR>&gt; trucks and weighed 25,900 pounds. 
The original cost of the car was<BR>&gt; $2,760.30. This series' nomenclature 
(given by Cleveland Railway Co) was<BR>&gt; "Arch Roof Trailer".<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
It began in Shaker Heights Service in 1947 (exact date unavailable). it 
had<BR>&gt; "cable" MU couplers, was renumbered to 58 and stayed in SHRT 
revenue<BR>&gt; service until sometime in 1948. At that time is was towed to Van 
Aken Yard<BR>&gt; and made a "permanent" trainman's locker room and office. This 
"permanent"<BR>&gt; assignment lasted until April 3, 1968 when it was towed to 
Kingsbury Run<BR>&gt; Shops. In 1968 it was sold to Gerald E. Brookins and moved 
to Trolleyville<BR>&gt; in 1968. It was almost totally restored to its original 
Cleveland Railway<BR>&gt; appearance even to the Peter Smith coal stove. It was 
stored at<BR>&gt; Trolleyville and what has happened to it since the demise of 
the<BR>&gt; Trolleyville collection I do not know. I suppose it's somewhere in 
the U.S.<BR>&gt; at some trolley museum.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Wed, Jul 17, 
2013 at 2:32 PM, Bob Rathke &lt;bobrathke@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Getting back on track, I am attaching three 
photos that I took on the SHR<BR>&gt; &gt; T in the mid-60's:<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; - PCC 94 at Shaker Square on 9/15/66 
(94 is now at PTM).<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; - PCC 95 
at Shaker Square&nbsp; leading an outbound 3-car train onto the Van<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Aiken line on 9/15/66.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; - 
Body of a&nbsp; double-end trolley that may have been used as an<BR>&gt; &gt; 
office/storage facility. Taken&nbsp; at Van Aiken loop on 8/15/64.&nbsp; Note 
the<BR>&gt; &gt; person in the fourth window from the right who appears to be 
writing at a<BR>&gt; &gt; desk.&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anyone kn ow the&nbsp; 
number/history of this car?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Bob<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message 
-----<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; From: "Fred Schneider" 
&lt;fwschneider@comcast.net&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" 
&lt;<BR>&gt; &gt; pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:40:33 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [PRCo] How 
far off TRACK can we get????<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; And remember, Derrick, 
when you could hand your luggage to an airline<BR>&gt; &gt; representative at 
the curb and he would tag it and it would go onto the<BR>&gt; &gt; plane.&nbsp; 
You didn't even have to carry it into the terminal.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Back 
in<BR>&gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; days when they wanted business …. before they give 
you the business.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; On Jul 17, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote:<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Airlines?&nbsp;&nbsp; I can remember when you could dash 
up to the gate with 15<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; minutes to spare, get on the plane 
and go ….<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Me too. July 
2001. 28x was late, I got to the airport at 8:06am and was<BR>&gt; &gt; 
not<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the last person seated on my 8:15 departure, which left on 
time.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
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