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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <BR> <BR>Thanks for info on 302. Suspected it became a 'parts' car, but that was just a guess. <BR> <BR>When Trolleyville collection dispersed in 2009, 304 went to Northern Ohio and 303 went to Fox River. (Should check the museum websites to verify the latter two car numbers - not good to rely on memory). <BR> <BR>Of course this list is more familiar with certain other parts of the dispersion: 4145, 2227 and Toledo to PTM, plus a freight motor destined to become a 'parts' car. <BR> <BR><br> <BR><div>> From: hrbran@cavtel.net<br>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:10:25 -0400<br>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT<br>> <br>> John,<br>> Cars 302, 303, 304 and 306 were sold, by SHRT, to Gerald Brookins in 1954.<br>> Car 302 was scrapped by Gerald Brookins in 1985 and used for parts. Car 306<br>> went to Illinois Railway Museum in 1992. My paperwork only goes as far as<br>> 1999 and does not indicate the disposition of cars 303 and 304. These two<br>> were still at Trolleyville in 1999.<br>> <br>> Interesting to note is that an agreement was signed between SHRT and<br>> Cleveland Transit System concerning these cars. The agreement stipulated<br>> that this series of SHRT car would not be operated in what was to become<br>> the "joint operational territory" between East 55th Street and Terminal<br>> Tower Station. Their last date of operation was March 14, 1955. The cars<br>> were slow (it was felt they would slow down operations in the joint<br>> territory) and also the required "trip arms" (which had to be installed as<br>> a safety factor for use in the joint territory) would be too hard to<br>> install in these cars.<br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, John Swindler <j_swindler@hotmail.com>wrote:<br>> <br>> ><br>> > Didn't Brookins save four of those Fox River Cars???<br>> ><br>> > One went to IRM, one went to Northern Ohio, one went to Fox River. Assume<br>> > the fourth might have been scrapped somewhere along the line for parts.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > > From: dwightlong@verizon.net<br>> > > To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:35:32 -0400<br>> > > CC: 1artwheeler@gmail.com<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Guys<br>> > ><br>> > > Here is a real Peter Witt car, however, on 25 August 1953, no longer<br>> > being used in Peter Witt fare collection mode, but rather one man, front<br>> > entrance. This at Public Square a few months before the last line,<br>> > Madison, Crumped.<br>> > ><br>> > > And forget those old center door clunkers beloved only by Clevelanders<br>> > (Sorry Dennis and JWV!). Here is the real deal of a gem on SHRT, same day<br>> > as above, 304 at Shaker Square. Yes, I rode it out from Terminal Tower.<br>> > Sorry it is not a very good photo compositionwise, but it sure brings back<br>> > memories. For those who may not know, these 1923-built St. Louis cars were<br>> > second hand from the Aurora, Fox River and Elgin interurban in Illinois, a<br>> > portion of which is still in use as the Fox River Trolley Museum. This<br>> > very car was saved and lived for years at Brookins, but is now back home at<br>> > South Elgin.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Dwight<br>> > ><br>> > > From: Bob Rathke<br>> > > Sent: Wednesday, 17 July, 2013 14:32<br>> > > To: Western PA Trolley discussion<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] How far off TRACK can we get????<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Getting back on track, I am attaching three photos that I took on the<br>> > SHR T in the mid-60's:<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > - PCC 94 at Shaker Square on 9/15/66 (94 is now at PTM).<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > - PCC 95 at Shaker Square leading an outbound 3-car train onto the Van<br>> > Aiken line on 9/15/66.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > - Body of a double-end trolley that may have been used as an<br>> > office/storage facility. Taken at Van Aiken loop on 8/15/64. Note the<br>> > person in the fourth window from the right who appears to be writing at a<br>> > desk. Does anyone kn ow the number/history of this car?<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Bob<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><br>> > > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <<br>> > pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:40:33 PM<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] How far off TRACK can we get????<br>> > ><br>> > > And remember, Derrick, when you could hand your luggage to an airline<br>> > representative at the curb and he would tag it and it would go onto the<br>> > plane. You didn't even have to carry it into the terminal. Back in the<br>> > days when they wanted business …. before they give you the business.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > > Airlines? I can remember when you could dash up to the gate with 15<br>> > > >> minutes to spare, get on the plane and go ….<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > Me too. July 2001. 28x was late, I got to the airport at 8:06am and<br>> > was not<br>> > > > the last person seated on my 8:15 departure, which left on time.<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > > URL:<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/5ac79fe0/attachment.html<br>> > > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > URL:<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/22692b78/attachment.html<br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > Name: SHRT94-091566.jpg<br>> > > Type: image/jpeg<br>> > > Size: 680040 bytes<br>> > > Desc: not available<br>> > > Url :<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/22692b78/attachment.jpg<br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > Name: SHRT95-091566.jpg<br>> > > Type: image/jpeg<br>> > > Size: 685790 bytes<br>> > > Desc: not available<br>> > > Url :<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/22692b78/attachment-0001.jpg<br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > Name: SHRTofficeTrolley081564.jpg<br>> > > Type: image/jpeg<br>> > > Size: 458996 bytes<br>> > > Desc: not available<br>> > > Url :<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/22692b78/attachment-0002.jpg<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > URL:<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/19748546/attachment.html<br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > Name: not available<br>> > > Type: image/jpeg<br>> > > Size: 107651 bytes<br>> > > Desc: not available<br>> > > Url :<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/19748546/attachment.jpe<br>> > > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > > Name: not available<br>> > > Type: image/jpeg<br>> > > Size: 98354 bytes<br>> > > Desc: not available<br>> > > Url :<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/19748546/attachment-0001.jpe<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > URL:<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/882d9d04/attachment.html<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Herb Brannon<br>> Back In The Burgh !<br>> Let's Go Bucs<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130717/363a4929/attachment.html <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br></div> </div>
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