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<DIV><FONT size=4>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>There is a fot of it on their website but I don’t know if it
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=trams2@comcast.net
href="mailto:trams2@comcast.net">Edward H. Lybarger</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 18 July, 2013 16:39</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">'Western PA Trolley
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in
Museum</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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was operable at that time. I presume it still is...can't find a photo of
it -- or most other cars -- on their website.<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Edward H.
Lybarger<BR>Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:08 PM<BR>To: 'Western PA Trolley
discussion'<BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum<BR><BR>It had
been regauged when I first saw it there in 1970.<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Dwight
Long<BR>Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:51 PM<BR>To: Western PA Trolley
discussion<BR>Subject: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in
Museum<BR><BR><BR>Ray<BR><BR>1440, at Seashore. I don?t know the
condition, or if it has even been regauged.<BR><BR>Dwight<BR><BR>From: Lattner,
Raymond <BR>Sent: Thursday, 18 July, 2013 12:57<BR>To: Western PA Trolley
discussion <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT<BR>Isn't there a PRCo PCC
in a museum up north somewhere, a 1400 series car? Is that car still
around or has it been scrapped?<BR>If still existing anyone know the condition
of car?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Dwight
Long<BR>Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:39 PM<BR>To: Western PA Trolley
discussion<BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT<BR><BR><BR>John<BR><BR>I
think you will find that 304, the one I sent the photo of in service in the year
1953, went to and is at Fox River. 303 is shown at NORM.<BR><BR>Ole debbil
memory again! I have the same problem, but believe I'm correct in this
case.<BR><BR>Dwight<BR><BR>From: John Swindler <BR>Sent: Thursday, 18 July, 2013
11:23<BR>To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and
SHRT<BR><BR> <BR>Thanks for info on 302. Suspected it became a
'parts' car, but that was just a guess. <BR> <BR>When Trolleyville
collection dispersed in 2009, 304 went to Northern Ohio and 303 went to Fox
River. (Should check the museum websites to verify the latter two
car numbers - not good to rely on memory). <BR> <BR>Of course this
list is more familiar with certain other parts of the dispersion: 4145,
2227 and Toledo to PTM, plus a freight motor destined to become a 'parts'
car. <BR> <BR><BR> <BR>> From: hrbran@cavtel.net<BR>>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:10:25 -0400<BR>> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland
and SHRT<BR>> <BR>> John,<BR>> Cars 302, 303, 304 and 306 were sold, by
SHRT, to Gerald Brookins in 1954.<BR>> Car 302 was scrapped by Gerald
Brookins in 1985 and used for parts. Car 306<BR>> went to Illinois Railway
Museum in 1992. My paperwork only goes as far as<BR>> 1999 and does not
indicate the disposition of cars 303 and 304. These two<BR>> were still at
Trolleyville in 1999.<BR>> <BR>> Interesting to note is that an agreement
was signed between SHRT and<BR>> Cleveland Transit System concerning these
cars. The agreement stipulated<BR>> that this series of SHRT car would not be
operated in what was to become<BR>> the "joint operational territory" between
East 55th Street and Terminal<BR>> Tower Station. Their last date of
operation was March 14, 1955. The cars<BR>> were slow (it was felt they would
slow down operations in the joint<BR>> territory) and also the required "trip
arms" (which had to be installed as<BR>> a safety factor for use in the joint
territory) would be too hard to<BR>> install in these cars.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, John Swindler
<j_swindler@hotmail.com>wrote:<BR>> <BR>> ><BR>> > Didn't
Brookins save four of those Fox River Cars???<BR>> ><BR>> > One went
to IRM, one went to Northern Ohio, one went to Fox River. Assume<BR>>
> the fourth might have been scrapped somewhere along the line for
parts.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > >
From: dwightlong@verizon.net<BR>> > > To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul
2013 16:35:32 -0400<BR>> > > CC: 1artwheeler@gmail.com<BR>> >
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT<BR>> > ><BR>> >
><BR>> > > Guys<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Here is a real
Peter Witt car, however, on 25 August 1953, no longer<BR>> > being used in
Peter Witt fare collection mode, but rather one man, front<BR>> >
entrance. This at Public Square a few months before the last line,<BR>>
> Madison, Crumped.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > And forget those old
center door clunkers beloved only by Clevelanders<BR>> > (Sorry Dennis and
JWV!). Here is the real deal of a gem on SHRT, same day<BR>> > as
above, 304 at Shaker Square. Yes, I rode it out from Terminal
Tower.<BR>> > Sorry it is not a very good photo compositionwise, but
it sure brings back<BR>> > memories. For those who may not know,
these 1923-built St. Louis cars were<BR>> > second hand from the Aurora,
Fox River and Elgin interurban in Illinois, a<BR>> > portion of which is
still in use as the Fox River Trolley Museum. This<BR>> > very
car was saved and lived for years at Brookins, but is now back home at<BR>>
> South Elgin.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>>
> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Dwight<BR>> > ><BR>>
> > From: Bob Rathke<BR>> > > Sent: Wednesday, 17 July, 2013
14:32<BR>> > > To: Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>> > >
Subject: Re: [PRCo] How far off TRACK can we get????<BR>> > ><BR>>
> ><BR>> > > Getting back on track, I am attaching three photos
that I took on the<BR>> > SHR T in the mid-60's:<BR>> > ><BR>>
> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > - PCC 94 at Shaker Square on
9/15/66 (94 is now at PTM).<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> >
><BR>> > > - PCC 95 at Shaker Square leading an outbound 3-car
train onto the Van<BR>> > Aiken line on 9/15/66.<BR>> > ><BR>>
> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > - Body of a double-end
trolley that may have been used as an<BR>> > office/storage facility.
Taken at Van Aiken loop on 8/15/64. Note the<BR>> > person in
the fourth window from the right who appears to be writing at a<BR>> >
desk. Does anyone kn ow the number/history of this
car?<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > >
Bob<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > >
----- Original Message -----<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> >
> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><BR>> > >
To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <<BR>> >
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> > > Sent: Wednesday,
July 17, 2013 12:40:33 PM<BR>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] How far off
TRACK can we get????<BR>> > ><BR>> > > And remember, Derrick,
when you could hand your luggage to an airline<BR>> > representative at
the curb and he would tag it and it would go onto the<BR>> > plane.
You didn't even have to carry it into the terminal. Back in
the<BR>> > days when they wanted business .... before they give you the
business.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> >
><BR>> > ><BR>> > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Derrick
Brashear wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Airlines? I
can remember when you could dash up to the gate with 15<BR>> > >
>> minutes to spare, get on the plane and go ....<BR>> > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > Me too. July 2001. 28x was
late, I got to the airport at 8:06am and<BR>> > was not<BR>> > >
> the last person seated on my 8:15 departure, which left on time.<BR>>
> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
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