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<DIV><FONT size=4>But who’s to say they did not buy a set or sets of trucks in
advance? Also, could not Chicago PCC rapid car trucks be used—of course
air brakes would have to be fitted.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fwschneider@comcast.net
href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net">Fred Schneider</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 19 July, 2013 11:57</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in
Museum</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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would have had to cut the extension rings off the axle housings. Put
bearings in the end of the shorter axle housings if they had a place to put
them. Install shorter axles. Then, since this is an air
car, you would need to fabricate new, shorter brake beams. It would
be a lot easier than a outside framed truck ….<BR><BR>BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A
WHOLE LOT EASIER TO FIND A PAIR OF TRUCKS OF THE RIGHT GAUGE IN THE SCRAP HEAP
SOMEWHERE ELSE. That car would have come to Seashore in the
mid to late 1960s. The Montreal cars were gone in 1959.
Washington's cars were gone by 1962. But Boston may have had
standard gauge air cards then and one of the Seashore members worked for MTA /
MBTA in the shops. <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:03 AM,
Lattner, Raymond wrote:<BR><BR>> I thought the book, PCC the Car That Fought
Back, indicated it was relatively easy to change the gauge of the trucks?
<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From:
pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of John
Swindler<BR>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:38 AM<BR>> To: Western PA
Trolley discussion<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in
Museum<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> We tend to use the term
're-gauge', which implies modifying the original trucks. But suspect it
would be a lot cheaper to swap for trucks that are already standard gauge.
In the end, same difference - 1440 is operable on Seashore track, only quicker
and cheaper. <BR>> <BR>> PTM has the opposite problem - finding
broad gauge trucks to fit under standard gauge equipment without going to
expense of re-gauging. I suspect the Boston dump car is an example.
However, the open car did not lend itself to an easy expedient.
<BR>> <BR>> Never paid much attention to re-gauging issues until the
Trolley Fare accounts on work that had to be done for several recent PTM
acquisitions. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> From:
dwightlong@verizon.net<BR>>> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>>> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013
03:20:42 -0400<BR>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in
Museum<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> John<BR>>> <BR>>>
Perhaps so they could operate it on their standard gauge track? What am I
missing in this question?<BR>>> <BR>>> Dwight<BR>>>
<BR>>> From: John Swindler<BR>>> Sent: Thursday, 18 July, 2013
21:51<BR>>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>>> Subject: Re:
[PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> huh,
Fred???<BR>>> <BR>>> Alan Pegler never had a Royal Scot. Those
were London-Midland-Scottish 4-6-0 types used on the West Coast main line.
The first one - #6100 Royal Scot has been preserved. <BR>>>
<BR>>> The "Flying Scotsman" is an A-3 class London and Northeastern
'pacific' type loco used on the East Coast main line.<BR>>> <BR>>>
The only similarity is that both made trips to US, but neither you nor I ever
saw the Royal Scot in this country - it's US visit was during 1930s.<BR>>>
<BR>>> As for PRC 1440, finding this link falls into the category of just
dumb luck. Any reason Seashore would re-gauge the PRC trucks rather than
use an extra set of Boston PCC trucks????<BR>>> <BR>>>
http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=01440SPA<BR>>>
<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>>> From:
fwschneider@comcast.net<BR>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:49:27
-0400<BR>>>> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC
1400 Series PCC in Museum<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Here is a link to
1440 on Seashore's web site.<BR>>>> <BR>>>>
http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=01440SPA<BR>>>>
<BR>>>> I have no idea what shape it is in today. Remember when
Alan Pegler's Royal Scot (4472) was running in the U. S.
A? I think it is called the Flying Scotsman today and there is
a joke on line about renaming it after the prime minister by simply removing the
F from the name. <BR>>>> <BR>>>> Well, I think that
might have been about 1969. I went up on the Night Clunker from
Philly to Providence and met Bill Middleton (the Navy had him in Newport, RI
then) and we spent the weekend chasing a British steam engine and riding
trolleys at Seashore. That was the only time I saw 1440 and it
looked pretty good them. I have been up that way one or two
times since but I didn't see it out.<BR>>>> <BR>>>>
<BR>>>> <BR>>>> On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Edward H.
Lybarger wrote:<BR>>>> <BR>>>>> It was operable at that
time. I presume it still is...can't find a photo of it -- or most other
cars -- on their website.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>>
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