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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <BR>What about Dayton around 1970?? Didn't the private operator publicize that the bus operators would be deputized? <BR> <BR>Exact fare (Removal of cash from operators) occurred after a D.C. transit operator was gunned down around 1970.<BR> <BR>They told us at CTA in 1968 not to argue or get into a fight - we were not paid to be a hero. Chicago was averaging about a thousand bus robbery's a year. During one of my summers, a 12-Roosevelt bus operator was gunned down. He was a foreign student working for the summer and may not have fully understood "give me da money".<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><br> <BR><div>> From: hrbran@cavtel.net<br>> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 09:34:57 -0400<br>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Armed Motormen<br>> <br>> It was against PATransit policy to allow any employee to carry a firearm. I<br>> remember Harold Geissenheimer did discuss that topic one time after<br>> Division 85 of the Amalgamated Transit Union put forth the idea of<br>> operators and mechanics being allowed to carry guns. This was after scores<br>> of operator assaults, myself being a victim included. Policy remained the<br>> same.............no guns. The same is true at Greater Cleveland Regional<br>> Transit Authority.........no guns. In Cleveland, even with a "permit to<br>> carry", one was required to secure the weapon in your private vehicle<br>> before coming into the station.<br>> <br>> With individual states beginning to allow teachers and school personnel to<br>> be armed, and given the American habit of "pushing the envelope", we may at<br>> some point see some states allowing transit personnel to be armed. Transit<br>> operator assaults are on the rise again all over North America and this<br>> will play into any decision on armed transit personnel.<br>> <br>> As for the newspaper article, it almost seems comic. The operator had time<br>> to "hoist the front trolley pole" before the robber got from the rear of<br>> the car to stop him? Please! People were easily convinced of anything back<br>> in 1931.<br>> <br>> <br>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Lattner, Raymond <rlattner@pa.gov> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Ed, I guess you will probably be the only one who may be able to<br>> > answer this, did the company actually ever arm PRCo operators?<br>> ><br>> > Anything in your files regarding this? Also, did PAT ever consider arming<br>> > its operators? Are PAT employees allowed to carry if permitted?<br>> ><br>> > Any idea what kind of police force PRCo had?<br>> ><br>> > Thanks<br>> ><br>> > Ray<br>> ><br>> > Article dated October 1931.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > URL:<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130802/b48c99c0/attachment.html<br>> > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > Name: 2013-08-02_081511.jpg<br>> > Type: image/jpeg<br>> > Size: 135058 bytes<br>> > Desc: 2013-08-02_081511.jpg<br>> > Url :<br>> > http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130802/b48c99c0/attachment.jpg<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Herb Brannon<br>> *In Pittsburgh...The Paris of<br>> Appalachia<http://www.arc.gov/appalachian_region/TheAppalachianRegion.asp><br>> *<br>> Let's Go Bucs<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130802/3566bdd5/attachment.html <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br></div> </div>
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