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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <BR> <BR> <BR>Hi Derrick<BR> <BR>I rode the Rochester - Chippewa portion of the Pittsburgh service during a free transit review. It was a weekday, but still surprised by number of passengers on-board when we left Rochester. Almost full. Rochester is the BCTA transfer terminal. <BR> <BR>First picture is at the Chippewa terminal - my presence on the bus disrupted the driver chatting on a cell phone. Phone was laying on the dashboard, and kept ringing during the outbound trip. The second pix is the Rochester terminal.<BR> <BR>That's what happens when the state sends a railfan on a review - railfan makes a 'fantrip' out of the visit, including 'photo stops'. Did the same thing in the Army. Had the staff at base near Wilmington, NC attach a caboose to daily interchange freight and took my section on a 'fantrip'.<BR> <BR><br> <BR><div>> From: shadow@gmail.com<br>> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:03:24 -0400<br>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Fwd: PRCo Armed Motormen<br>> <br>> <br>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:51 PM, John Swindler <j_swindler@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > <br>> > Included are two of Fred's "school buses". <br>> > <br>> > First pix is Beaver County Transit Auth. local bus in Aliquippa. Parlor coaches are used for Pgh. service. <br>> > <br>> <br>> If you go during daytime hours on a weekday, the express service to Rochester (express to the county line) is real nice, seems like a long trip otherwise.<br>> <br>> <br>> > Mid Mon Valley only has 4-5 employees. They subcontract with First Transit for operators and maintenance. <br>> > <br>> > I'm suggesting costs will go up to 'equalize' with Div. 85 rates, just as the independent operators rates went up in 1964 to equalize with PRC rates. That's what the pamphlet says. <br>> > <br>> > As for school buses, they are useful if you want to charter a vehicle to follow West Penn rights of way. But GG&C does not use school buses on fixed route service. Gillig transit buses are used for Pgh service, and accessible vans are used for Washington local service. <br>> > <br>> > John<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >> From: fwschneider@comcast.net<br>> >> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:16:31 -0400<br>> >> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Fwd: PRCo Armed Motormen<br>> >> <br>> >> You suggesting costs will go down, John, because wages are lower in the private sector or because you can pack more people in a school bus? :<) <br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> On Aug 3, 2013, at 1:17 PM, John Swindler wrote:<br>> >> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> Agreed. Interesting how that plays out on the list, but others receiving the pamphlets might not understand. <br>> >>> <br>> >>> Speaking of the pamphlets, the PAT news has a first year review of PAT - and attributes the deficit largely to "wage equalization program which raised the wage rates of all employees to the level of the highest of the 33 acquired companies." Guess what is going to happen if the PAT service area is expanded to the surrounding counties as currently proposed??? Some of those surrounding transit systems contract with private operators to provide service, such as Mid Mon Valley, Washington Co., and Westmoreland County.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>>> From: hrbran@cavtel.net<br>> >>>> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:17:21 -0400<br>> >>>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> >>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Fwd: PRCo Armed Motormen<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> All emails on The List play out that way.<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, John Swindler <j_swindler@hotmail.com>wrote:<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> This email started with a discussion of an Oct.1931 robbery on Pittsburgh<br>> >>>>> Rys, then digressed to transition to exact fare around 1970, an assault on<br>> >>>>> a PAT bus driver during 1970s, to comments about PTC abandoning parts of rt<br>> >>>>> 36 near airport. Separately, there was a recent for a PAT smiley face.<br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> The Pgh transit list gets the two flyers found during recent purging of<br>> >>>>> transit stuff. One mentions PATman; the other about Philly route 36.<br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> Others might find the news article plus transit flyers of some interest.<br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> With apology for not tailoring as separate emails, but getting lazy in my<br>> >>>>> old age.<br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>>> <br>> >>>>>> Article dated October 1931.<br>> >>>>>> <br>> >>>>>> <br>> >>>>>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> >>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> >>>>>> Name: 2013-08-02_081511.jpg<br>> >>>>>> Type: image/jpeg<br>> >>>>>> Size: 135058 bytes<br>> >>>>>> Desc: 2013-08-02_081511.jpg<br>> >>>>>> Url :<br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130802/b48c99c0/attachment.jpg<br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> <br>> >>>>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> >>>>> URL:<br>> >>>>> 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