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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <BR> <BR> <BR>You might want to look at the Boston PCC cars Seashore was advertising for sale 7-8 years ago, including several ex. Dallas examples. They've had a couple decades of outdoor exposure to Maine coastal weather. <BR> <BR>By comparison, the Trolleyville car that went to McKinney Ave. <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.davesrailpix.com/hicks/htm/hicks153.htm">http://www.davesrailpix.com/hicks/htm/hicks153.htm</a><BR> <BR>Perhaps there are degrees of rancid. A quarter century at the MBTA didn't do any favors to any of these cars.<BR> <BR> <BR><br> <BR><div>> From: fwschneider@comcast.net<br>> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:13:18 -0400<br>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] McKinney Avenue restores another car<br>> <br>> You might want to look at it first. A lot of those former Boston cars were in pretty rancid shape. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Richard Allman wrote:<br>> <br>> > did not know that! Maybe I might just send them a few $$ toward its <br>> > restoration unless it's a near total loss.<br>> > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><br>> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <br>> > <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:18 PM<br>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] McKinney Avenue restores another car<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > They have one.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > On Aug 4, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Richard Allman wrote:<br>> > <br>> >> too bad one of thee-Dallas PCC's has not made its way to MATA instead of<br>> >> languishing @ Seashore<br>> >> <br>> >> ----- Original Message ----- <br>> >> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><br>> >> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"<br>> >> <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> >> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 10:09 AM<br>> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] McKinney Avenue restores another car<br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> And, Herb, it overflows into all the other states because no textbook<br>> >> publisher wants to produce two editions
one for the Texas Board of<br>> >> Schoolbook Censors and one for the rest of the country. So we all get<br>> >> history rewritten to satisfy Texas.<br>> >> <br>> >> I never got a decent U. S. History course until I took one through the<br>> >> University of Maryland when I was in the army. I still haven't had a <br>> >> good<br>> >> World History course because our view on world history is our own history,<br>> >> i.e. European. We presume, in writing world history, that Africa, South<br>> >> America and Asia do not exist.<br>> >> <br>> >> You might like to read two books by James Lowen. One is "Lies My Teacher<br>> >> Taught Me" and the other is "Lies Across America" --- all those things you<br>> >> are told on historical markers and at various tourist sights. When I<br>> >> picked up the second book, I looked to see first what might be included <br>> >> from<br>> >> my own area. It was there, a chapter titled "You came to see the house,<br>> >> not hear about the man." The people that preserved President James<br>> >> Buchanan's home tell you all about the house; they forget to tell you he <br>> >> was<br>> >> gay. I'll leave you read it yourself to see what was missed. Great<br>> >> things like road signs telling about massacres
indians cause them
in <br>> >> the<br>> >> case Lowen wrote about Mormons did it and then wrote the sign to blame it <br>> >> on<br>> >> the native Americans.<br>> >> <br>> >> http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0743296281<br>> >> <br>> >> And if you think Lowen is lying
I have a great friend, a college<br>> >> professor, who was asked to write a history text for high schools. After<br>> >> he signed the contract, then the publisher told him who would review it <br>> >> for<br>> >> accuracy
i.e. which women's group, which black rights group, which <br>> >> Spanish<br>> >> activist group, etc. In other words, he had to write it to please <br>> >> certain<br>> >> groups and he had to pay them for editing his work too. Fortunately, <br>> >> just<br>> >> as he had finished chapter one, the publisher was bought out and they paid<br>> >> him to get lost because they didn't want two competing lines of textbooks.<br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> On Aug 3, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:<br>> >> <br>> >>> All over Texas they have a habit of "rewriting" history to suit<br>> >>> themselves,<br>> >>> including textbooks for use in the Texas public schools. I'm sure they<br>> >>> think they have a gosh-darn Peter Witt operating.............all the rest<br>> >>> of the world is wrong.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Fred Schneider<br>> >>> <fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote:<br>> >>> <br>> >>>> We had a discussion here about certain cars in Cleveland not being Peter<br>> >>>> Witts
.<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> Well here is a video tape of a car they are calling a Peter Witt and<br>> >>>> "sure<br>> >>>> a God made green apples," it isn't. It was at one time but when Dallas<br>> >>>> went one man, the center doors were received. I would love to see <br>> >>>> proof<br>> >>>> that Mr. Witt collected royalties.<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> The trucks are not right on the rebuilt car either. Originally it had<br>> >>>> Brill cast frame trucks with coil springs over the journals and the<br>> >>>> bolsters resting on elliptical springs hanging from the frame cord.<br>> >>>> These<br>> >>>> cars never had MCB trucks in revenue service.<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> But it looks nice.<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuTiycs88ME<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> _______________________________________________<br>> >>>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> >>>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> >>>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> >>>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> -- <br>> >>> Herb Brannon<br>> >>> *In Pittsburgh...The Paris of<br>> >>> Appalachia<http://www.arc.gov/appalachian_region/TheAppalachianRegion.asp><br>> >>> *<br>> >>> Let's Go Bucs<br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> >>> URL:<br>> >>> http://mailman.dementix.org/pipermail/pittsburgh-railways/attachments/20130803/863ddcff/attachment.html<br>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> >>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> >>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> >> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> >> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> >> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> >> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> > Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br></div> </div>
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