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<DIV><FONT size=4>Fred</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Re McKeesport, yes, see my earlier response to Bill.
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<DIV><FONT size=4>The City of McKeesport tried for years to get PRC off this
loop but C.D. Palmer and Clyde Ligo resisted all efforts to do so until the
State Highway Department condemned a portion of Murray Avenue in Squirrel Hill
in 1958. The H.D. also wanted PRC off the street in Duquesne (so it could
be rebuilt without tracks) where the hillside had slid down onto the track
(also former WP) and temporary bi-directional running over the inbound track had
been instituted, wanted the Railway’s PRW from the end of the Rankin
Bridge up to Kennywood for expansion of S.R. 837, and wished to replace
the bridge (also 837) over Thompson Run at the other end of Kennywood. All
this was just too much for even Palmer and Ligo to countenance and they threw in
the towel on Rt. 68. Rt. 60, which also used Murray Avenue, was collateral
damage. However, as I have recounted a few times, they kept the Rt. 68
trackage on Browns Hill Road and the Homestead High Level bridge intact all the
time up til PAT in expectation of rerouting Rt. 55 over it when the Glenwood
Bridge would no longer be available for trams. Startup of PAT put paid to
that plan in short order.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fwschneider@comcast.net
href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net">Fred Schneider</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 07 August, 2013 11:43</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=artwheeler@trolleybuses.net
href="mailto:artwheeler@trolleybuses.net">artwheeler@trolleybuses.net</A> ; <A
title=1artwheeler@gmail.com href="mailto:1artwheeler@gmail.com">Bill Volkmer</A>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=dwightlong@verizon.net
href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net">Dwight Long</A> ; <A
title=de_fazio@alum.mit.edu href="mailto:de_fazio@alum.mit.edu">Tom DeFazio</A>
; <A title=rdv74053@verizon.net href="mailto:rdv74053@verizon.net">Richard
Vible</A> ; <A title=allmanr@verizon.net href="mailto:allmanr@verizon.net">Rich
Allman</A> ; <A title=afishel@interurbans.com
href="mailto:afishel@interurbans.com">Alan Fishel</A> ; <A
title=abbuchan1@comcast.net href="mailto:abbuchan1@comcast.net">Alan Buchan</A>
; <A title=ajoshi43k@gmail.com href="mailto:ajoshi43k@gmail.com">Ashok Joshi</A>
; <A title=bbente@bellsouth.net href="mailto:bbente@bellsouth.net">BRUCE C
BENTE</A> ; <A title=billbb@wi.rr.com href="mailto:billbb@wi.rr.com">Becwar
Bill</A> ; <A title=cleverett@comcast.net
href="mailto:cleverett@comcast.net">C.K. Leverett</A> ; <A title=csl5632@att.net
href="mailto:csl5632@att.net">George Kanary</A> ; <A title=vw53bug@wowway.com
href="mailto:vw53bug@wowway.com">Terrell Colson</A> ; <A
title=trolley525@msn.com href="mailto:trolley525@msn.com">Ralph Cantos</A> ; <A
title=norman.carlson@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:norman.carlson@sbcglobal.net">Norman Carlson</A> ; <A
title=hassel8@comcast.net href="mailto:hassel8@comcast.net">Dick Hasselman</A> ;
<A title=frankdibugnara@yahoo.com href="mailto:frankdibugnara@yahoo.com">Frank
DiBugnara</A> ; <A title=RusCDavies@aol.com
href="mailto:RusCDavies@aol.com">Russ Davies</A> ; <A title=Carbarn@aol.com
href="mailto:Carbarn@aol.com">James Graebner</A> ; <A title=raudenrail@msn.com
href="mailto:raudenrail@msn.com">Hank Raudenbush</A> ; <A
title=h-pence@comcast.net href="mailto:h-pence@comcast.net">Herb Pence</A> ; <A
title=grumpyph@embarqmail.com href="mailto:grumpyph@embarqmail.com">Paul
Harris</A> ; <A title=tracksofnyc@gmail.com
href="mailto:tracksofnyc@gmail.com">Wayne Koch</A> ; <A title=kenspeng@mac.com
href="mailto:kenspeng@mac.com">Ken Spengler</A> ; <A
title=louis.a.marre@gmail.com href="mailto:louis.a.marre@gmail.com">Louis
Marre</A> ; <A title=lewrail@comcast.net href="mailto:lewrail@comcast.net">Lew
Schneider</A> ; <A title=jerryp@uptime.org href="mailto:jerryp@uptime.org">Jerry
Pinkepank</A> ; <A title=omnibus@fuse.net href="mailto:omnibus@fuse.net">Peter
Weiglin</A> ; <A title=wallyy@shaw.ca href="mailto:wallyy@shaw.ca">Wally
Young</A> ; <A title=jackmay135@gmail.com
href="mailto:jackmay135@gmail.com">Jack May</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Philadelphia Then and Now Curbside loading Ridge and
Midvale</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; DISPLAY: inline"><BR>Funny
how you punch the memory button from time to time.<BR><BR>1. That
McKeesport picture, if my memory is correct, was former West Penn
track. Did it not have a West Penn style car stop sign there, which
you cannot see, and which had white lettering on a black field? PRC
signs had black letters on a white field.<BR><BR>2. Funny thing
about that Midvale Avenue location. I had not been there in years
until four days ago. I had to meet friends in Chinatown for a lunch
at a real Chinese restaurant and we were so early that I had to find a way to
kill time. So I got off the expressway at City Avenue … and then change my
mind again and instead of going in East River Drive (now called Kelly Drive
after Grace Kelly's family), I used Ridge Avenue to kill more time.<BR><BR>My
wife thought I was giving her a grand tour of Philly's slums. I
explained I was only showing her were our granddaughter's husband came
from. Well, we got to Midvale and I pointed over behind the former
car stop and explained that there used to be a sidewalk news vendor there who
sold the Sunday Philadelphia Inquirer on Saturday evenings … we used to stop
there in the 1950s and get copies on the way home to Lancaster.
<BR><BR>The track connection may have been severed at Midvale and Ridge but I am
questioning in my mind if there might have been a positive wire connection to
the 61 trackless at that time??????<BR><BR>fws<BR><BR><BR>On Aug 7, 2013, at
9:16 AM, Bill Volkmer wrote:<BR><BR>
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