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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <BR> <BR>First challenge is to figure out what I have. At least there are contact print sheets for the 1980s negatives. Those from 1960s have been stored in glassine envelopes for past five decades. If could go back, would NOT buy bulk Tri-x film, but instead go with pan-x. Suspect the consideration was poor lighting conditions.<BR><br> <BR><div>> From: trams2@comcast.net<br>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:24:44 -0400<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] west penn r-o-w<br>> <br>> It's grainy, but the resolution is mighty low. 35mm negatives require the<br>> same resolution as scans. Yes, you can do it for 5 x 7s at half the<br>> resolution and get equivalent results, but I think it's easier to have a big<br>> enough hard drive (and external backup) to do everything this size at<br>> 4000/4800 ppi. Of course, we all have photos that shouldn't be scanned at<br>> all (think trash can instead); discretion is always needed.<br>> <br>> Try that negative again at 4000 and see the difference. The grain should be<br>> manageable.<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org<br>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of John<br>> Swindler<br>> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 10:53 AM<br>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] west penn r-o-w<br>> <br>> Thanks Ed<br>> <br>> So when you scan a 35mm negative for printing purposes, also at 4000psi????<br>> <br>> What if you only want a 5x7 size print. Then scan 2000psi sufficient?? Or<br>> still go with scan of 4000psi???<br>> <br>> Unfortunately used tri-x in early 1960s and pushed development - images will<br>> be grainy. For some b/w pix in early 1980s, uses plus or pan-x. <br>> <br>> Attached scan is from the negative. If I sent previously, it was scan from<br>> print. Outbound PRR commuter train approaching Edgewood station. The<br>> negative includes the mailbox on pole to left. When did they disappear???<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:12:57 +0000<br>> > From: bobrathke@comcast.net<br>> > To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] west penn r-o-w<br>> > <br>> > Thanks, John, Bob and Ed. I'll try VueScan. <br>> > <br>> > Bob<br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > <br>> > From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2@comcast.net><br>> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <br>> > <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> > Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 7:35:38 AM<br>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] west penn r-o-w<br>> > <br>> > When I scan a slide at 4000 ppi, I get a 50-54 MB file. That makes a nice<br>> 8 x 10 print. Remember, you want that 300-400 ppi resolution at the FINAL<br>> size, not the original image size. <br>> > <br>> > My Nikon scanner works on a Windows 7 machine loaded with Virtual XP that<br>> I bought in 2011. But when I tried to repeat the effect on a new laptop<br>> recently, I cannot get it to work...same problems as Bob is experiencing.<br>> My wife's son, who manages all the student computers for the Naval Academy,<br>> says that a lot of things that are supposed to be backwards compatible<br>> simply don't work, regardless of what we're told. I've often said that<br>> Microsoft got rich making defective software and then charging again to fix<br>> it. <br>> > <br>> > At some point I will purchase VueScan for the laptop so I can have the<br>> option of taking the scanner out in the field. They offer two versions...a<br>> cheapie, with no support, and a slightly less cheap one with lifetime<br>> support. I'll probably spring for the premium version. <br>> > <br>> > Ed<br>> > <br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org <br>> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of <br>> > John Swindler<br>> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 8:53 PM<br>> > To: Western PA Trolley discussion<br>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] west penn r-o-w<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Epson Perfection 350. It was our son's, but he recently upgraded. The<br>> computer is a recent HP with windows 7. <br>> > <br>> > I didn't have software CD, so downloaded the server files from the Epson<br>> website this afternoon. Surprisingly, it worked. <br>> > <br>> > For scanning, the default is 300dpi for transparencies. I switched to<br>> 400dpi - what you saw. In one instance, Fred asked for higher resolution,<br>> so tried 800dpi - took long time to scan and file was 4mb. I guess for<br>> sharing slides, 400dpi is more than sufficient, but for making prints should<br>> consider 800-1200 dpi. <br>> > <br>> > Next experiment is to see what scanner can do with some 35mm b/w <br>> > negatives from around 1963. Wondering if this will include the 1537 <br>> > fantrip????? (first challenge is to locate negatives - first time in <br>> > abut 50 years)<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > > From: bob.dietrich1@verizon.net<br>> > > To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 19:13:44 -0400<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] west penn r-o-w<br>> > > <br>> > > Bob: <br>> > > <br>> > > I have an Epson Perfection 1650 scanner that quit working when I went to<br>> Windows 7 64bit. The solution was VueScan, an inexpensive product ($40)<br>> that may work with your scanner. See www.hamrick.com. <br>> > > <br>> > > Bob<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > -----Original Message-----<br>> > > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf <br>> > > Of Bob Rathke<br>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 6:36 PM<br>> > > To: Western PA Trolley discussion<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] west penn r-o-w<br>> > > <br>> > > John,<br>> > > ? <br>> > > Which Epson slide scanner do you have - the V500?? I have a Nikon<br>> Coolscan5000ED slide scanner that worked great with Windows 98, but I can't<br>> get it to work with Windows 7 Professional/Virtual 98.? My old Windows 98<br>> computer was recycled, so now I'm limited to making only?low-res slide scans<br>> on my HP scanner. <br>> > > ? <br>> > > Bob<br>> > > <br>> > > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > > <br>> > > From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler@hotmail.com><br>> > > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <br>> > > <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:32:50 PM<br>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] west penn r-o-w<br>> > > <br>> > > ? <br>> > > West Penn right of way - probably. ? <br>> > > ? <br>> > > PAT had downtown office on Wood St. 1970s. ? <br>> > > ? <br>> > > As for third pix, since list topic is Pittsburgh Railways, this is PRC<br>> bus 503, with couple seats removed and tables installed. ?I want to say that<br>> PAT called it their 'party bus', but will defer to those with better<br>> memories. ?Used 1972 to sign up senior citizens for the free transit<br>> program. ?This pix is in Ingram. <br>> > > ? <br>> > > Scanned at 400 dpi as experiment of Epson scanner capabilities. <br>> > > <br>> > > ? 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