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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">John</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">OK, sorry. Guess I was a casualty of the
Ecartis system in thinking that the (blank producing) link had been inserted by
you. At least I was half right on W.P. being West Penn!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">At any rate, thanks for scanning and posting
the originals which surely were the source material for the PERC
booklet.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=j_swindler@hotmail.com href="mailto:j_swindler@hotmail.com">John
Swindler</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:18
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] change to PRC route
numbers part 2 of 2</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR> <BR> <BR>Hi Dwight<BR> <BR>There was no
link - I was commenting on your reply and mentioned the source for the
pamphlet I had previously posted and the note written on the outside of the
envelope in which it was found. The w.p. relates to a folded sheet
listing west penn farezones that was also in the envelope. Plus a couple
fare receipts, but that is extraneous to the route number
pamphlet.<BR> <BR>This envelope 'hints' at a source document of the PERC
mimeographed booklet that you
mentioned.<BR> <BR>John<BR> <BR> <BR><BR> <BR>> From:
<A href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net">dwightlong@verizon.net</A><BR>> To:
<A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:56:17 -0400<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] change to PRC
route numbers part 2 of 2<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> John<BR>> <BR>>
Don’t know what you tried to send as clicking on the link drew a
blank.<BR>> <BR>> I suspect W.P. relates to the West Penn booklet that
came out in 1952. Mac MacGrew, being in the publishing or printing business,
had a lot to do with PERC publications of the era.<BR>> <BR>>
Dwight<BR>> <BR>> From: John Swindler <BR>> Sent: Thursday, 05
September, 2013 12:40<BR>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>>
Subject: Re: [PRCo] change to PRC route numbers part 2 of 2<BR>> A bit more
history<BR>> <BR>> It was in an envelope postmarked 1952 addressed
from John Baxter to Max MacGrew. Includes in pencil this note:
"Bob. Please give to Baxter with W.P."<BR>> <BR>> So this
might have been the source document for the PERC booklet.<BR>>
<BR>> The w.p. comment apparently pertains to a fare zone
list.<BR>> <BR>> John<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> > From: <A
href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net">dwightlong@verizon.net</A><BR>> >
To: <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>>
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:07:21 -0400<BR>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo]
change to PRC route numbers part 2 of 2<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> Thanks, John<BR>> > <BR>> > One of these days in my great
abundant spare time I will check this copy of the original against the
little mimeographed booklet published by PERC back in the 50s which purports
to show the same information. I have found some apparent omissions in
the PERC booklet and it will be interesting to see if they were copying errors
of omission or if PRC left them out for whatever reason.<BR>> > <BR>>
> A useful bit of history which may help to dispel the confusion between
PRC route vs destination numbers.<BR>> > <BR>> > Dwight<BR>>
> <BR>> > From: John Swindler <BR>> > Sent: Sunday, 01
September, 2013 00:55<BR>> > To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>>
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] change to PRC route numbers part 2 of 2<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > Concerning discussion on date of introduction of PRC
destination route numbers: From PRC accounting dept - 1914; courtesy
John Baxter<BR>>
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