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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Fred</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">The three historic items that kept population
under control were famines, pestilence, and wars. So your bubonic plague
comment is apt.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=fwschneider@comcast.net href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net">Fred
Schneider</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley
discussion</A> ; <A title=dwightlong@verizon.net
href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net">Dwight Long</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 21, 2013 3:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves</DIV>
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<DIV>My dad came from Marietta, Ohio. I remember it was common practice
just to rake your leaves out in the streets and burn them.</DIV>
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<DIV>I know we did the same thing in Lancaster's suburbs. About the only
way I can do it now is bring them inside and burn them in the fireplace.
:<) </DIV>
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<DIV>But when you think about it, that put a lot less emissions into the air
in the 1950s than we probably do with our automobiles today. In my
lifetime (1940-2013) the world population has just about tripled from 2.2 to
about 6.5 billion people. The United States has increased from 132
million to somewhere over 315 million. And we've gone from 32,453,000
motor vehicles in 1940 to a peak of about 250 million when the recession hit
in 2008. </DIV>
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<DIV>The only good thing, Dwight, is we don't have all those steam engines
sitting in places like 24th Street (Pittsburgh), Glenwood and McKees Rocks
over the weekend smoking up the air waiting for Monday morning's rush hour to
arrive. But maybe the scary thing is that we've moved the stink
from places like Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Detroit to Beijing but human beings
are still not so human. </DIV>
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<DIV>Maybe we need a new and and temporarily incurable version of the bubonic
plague to reduce mankind's footprint on the planet back to a manageable
level???? This may sound like something Jonathan Swift would have
written. For those of you who never were forced to read it or may have
forgotten, Swift's <I>A Modest Proposal</I> was a suggestion that the
impoverished Irish eliminate the burden the children were having on the nation
and their parents by selling their children as food for the rich gentleman and
ladies. It may also sound like the philosophical conversations I might
have with a doctor friend of mine along the lines of, "Does medicine prolong
the life of us just a little too long?" But perhaps when we get to the
point where supplies of fresh water, food, fuel and fresh air are problematic,
we may have put too many of us on the planet. </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Now that ought to test whether or not Derrick's system is working.
:<) </B> </DIV>
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<DIV>On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Dwight Long wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><BR>Herb<BR><BR>I can remember back in the 50s coming back to Beaver
from auto trips to the East that involved the Pa Turnpike—we would use the
Warrendale exit and the back roads to Beaver. Coming down into the
(Beaver) valley off the hill the whole floor of the valley would be engulfed
in leaf smoke.<BR><BR>Unhealthy, they say, but it sure did convey the
impression that Autumn was upon us!<BR><BR>Dwight<BR><BR>From: Herb Brannon
<BR>Sent: Sunday, 20 October, 2013 10:36<BR>To: Western PA Trolley
discussion <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] Phil asked about music<BR>You mentioned
something I really miss.............the smell of burning<BR>leaves in
October.<BR><BR><BR>On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:37 AM, DF Cramer <<A
href="mailto:alto_trombone@hotmail.com">alto_trombone@hotmail.com</A>>wrote:<BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Well, what have I been up to? The beginning of the
month I performed<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Copland, Brahms, & Dvorak with the Butler
County Symphony,our (my wife<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">plays cello) 28th season with the ensemble. I am
back at IUP and delivered<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">two arrangements of French Noels from the Baroque
period to begin the<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">semester and last week conducted a first reading
of my "The Eternal Flame",<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">a commemorative piece for double trombone choir
and narrator I wrote to<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">mark the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy
assassination. All of that will be<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">performed on November 19 at the university. Next
week I perform with IUP<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">brass & organ faculty at Zion Lutheran in
Indiana for Reformation Sunday<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">and the following week we are doing Charlie
Chaplin's "City Lights" in<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Butler. Chaplin created the musical score for this
silent film and we will<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">be showing the film as we perform. (Side note: if
you want tickets let me<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">know as soon as possible--I usually get 4 free
ones)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Other than that, I spent quality time with Ed at
the Alle-Kiski Historical<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Society, led a new operator training class at PTM,
printed and stuffed<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">ballots for PTM, and am going to the opera today
to see Aida (football fan<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">alert--Franco Harris is leading the Grand March in
the opera today)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I spend lots of time practicing and cleaning up
leaves. I mulch some and<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">burn others---yes we are still permitted to burn
here.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">If you missed it--I also performed at the PTM 50th
Anniversary luncheon.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">See the most recent issue of PTM Trolley Fare,
Fred Schneider took some<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">great images.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Dennis F. Cramer<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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href="http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/">http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:49:49
-0700<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: Re: [PRCo] still having
issues<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Stereo-vision isn't it Mr.Cramer! Soapbox
opportunity; make the most of<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">it!<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">You have not recently mentioned anything about
your concert or music<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">engagements.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I find them fascinating. Music is not at
all unlike laughter is it;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">both speak a universal language.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Yes; BB are the last posts I have seen.
There was not much of anything<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">before your BB posts for several weeks. You
mentioned a book in relation<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">to this; please tell more.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Sat, 10/19/13, DF Cramer <<A
href="mailto:alto_trombone@hotmail.com">alto_trombone@hotmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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issues<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: "<A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A>"
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href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Date: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 3:52
AM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">it seemed very interesting that
after<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I posted on the list, several emails came
through. I assume people were<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">responding with reply all. I have received no
posts from the list other<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Baxter.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Dennis F. Cramer<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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