<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><DIV aria-label="Compose body">Gimbels had stores in NY, Phila., Pgh. and Milwaukee. I read that when Gimbels was closing, its Pgh. store was profitable but because of the remote location to headquarters they decided to close all the stores.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><B>From: </B>"Herb Brannon" <hrbran@cavtel.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR><B>Sent: </B>Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:28:55 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Don't let Adam Gimble hear you say that. Oh yes, I forgot.............all<BR>you Lancaster people only shop at Barneys and Saks.<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Fred Schneider <fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote:<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>> Ah yes, Gimbels … the cheap department store. But like so many others<BR>> driven out of business by K-Mart, WalMart, Target and so forth, it no<BR>> longer exists.<BR>><BR>> My first introduction to any form of electronic mail was a captive<BR>> in-house system that the state operated for its own departmental<BR>> operations. Today it's own system has been scrapped and it is using the<BR>> internet. But it was a fantastic system that allowed us to get stuff out<BR>> of Harrisburg the same day they got it … of course transmission was<BR>> excruciatingly slow.<BR>><BR>> The earliest memory I have of any such system, however rudimentary, was<BR>> the state Job Bank which would have been in the very early 1970s. All job<BR>> orders, referral and placement transactions were scanned with a slow speed<BR>> rotary drum scanner about the same number of lines as an old television<BR>> screen and then sent over telephone lines to Harrisburg to be be processed<BR>> into the main frame computer.<BR>><BR>> Hard to believe that, in the space of forty years, we have gone from that<BR>> to being able to send letters and photographs and drawings back and forth<BR>> to buddies anywhere in the world in real time. We can all remember when a<BR>> letter to Europe took a week to be delivered and now, if we are both awake<BR>> and near our computers at the same time, I can pass a half dozen e-mails<BR>> back and forth to the same person in Vienna or Berlin or rural eastern<BR>> England …. as we watch the postal service go bankrupt.<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:<BR>><BR>> > John,<BR>> > There was a "kinda" Internet back in the early/mid 1980s. It was nothing<BR>> > like we're using today, however.<BR>> ><BR>> > I had just bought a brand new Commodore 64 complete system at Gimbles in<BR>> > downtown Pittsburgh. Interesting that both Gimbles and the Commodore 64<BR>> > have gone to the museum of memories. My C64 was very "cutting edge" for<BR>> > 1983/84 inasmuch as I had the keyboard, monitor ( nothing more than a<BR>> > television set with only green and black color), dataset (for programs<BR>> and<BR>> > storage on cassette tape), two (mind you, two !) floppy disk drives (so I<BR>> > didn't have to switch between program and data-storage disks on only one<BR>> > disk drive), and a dot-matrix printer with these little DIP switches in<BR>> the<BR>> > back which could be set to produce ten different print styles, and a<BR>> little<BR>> > rectangle shaped box which plugged into the back of the keyboard and was<BR>> > called a "modem". For what I paid for all that stuff I could have used<BR>> that<BR>> > same dollar amount today and purchased three or four complete computer<BR>> > set-ups.<BR>> ><BR>> > Anyway, I wanted to use this investment to its fullest so I signed up for<BR>> > this service which was advertised as "connecting computers and their<BR>> users"<BR>> > for the purpose of transmitting "mail-like electronic messages" and<BR>> > providing "interest groups" on varying subject matter. It was, for all<BR>> > purposes, the beginning of the Internet. The "Mail-like electronic<BR>> message"<BR>> > service was called MCI Mail. You could send messages to other users who<BR>> > were on this system and you could also sent messages to people not on the<BR>> > service via this MCI Mail in selected US cities. For people not hooked<BR>> into<BR>> > the "network" via computer, the messages went to a MCI facility (located<BR>> in<BR>> > several major cities, Pittsburgh included) and were then delivered by a<BR>> > messenger to any address in downtown Pittsburgh or the downtown area of<BR>> the<BR>> > other cities in the network. The drawbacks were many, including the<BR>> > messenger service, the fact that only the downtown areas of several major<BR>> > cities could be accessed via this service, and the cost. This service<BR>> last<BR>> > only a few months as more and more people and businesses began using<BR>> > computers and became connected.<BR>> ><BR>> > There were no photographs on this system, only plain text. However, it<BR>> was<BR>> > the start of what we have today and I'm happy that I was a part of it.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM, John Swindler <j_swindler@hotmail.com<BR>> >wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> In 1968/9 Point Park College had a relatively new IBM System 360<BR>> computer.<BR>> >> It was a stand alone unit about 5-6 feet high. An instructor said that<BR>> >> the CPU took up less than a foot of this height - the rest was empty<BR>> space.<BR>> >> This was to fool purchasing agents who expected computers to be big and<BR>> >> bulky. Miniaturization was already occurring.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Doubt if you were thinking of using the internet in early 1980s, Fred.<BR>> >> Mid-1990s, perhaps, but not 1980s.<BR>> >><BR>> >> A problem in the 1980s was the proliferation of computer manufacturers<BR>> and<BR>> >> non-compatible software. Also speed even when there was a program that<BR>> >> could convert from one language to another. We're talking 8086 and 286<BR>> >> chips. Today it seems that instantaneous just doesn't seem fast<BR>> enough. I<BR>> >> remember a LOTUS 1-2-3 spreadsheet. Enter a bunch of data, tell it to<BR>> >> compute, then go for a cup of coffee. It was used to produce the<BR>> >> Pennsylvania Mass Transit Statistical Report.<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 02:04:10 +0000<BR>> >>> From: bobrathke@comcast.net<BR>> >>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Most of us from the 1970's have these computer stories, Fred. I used<BR>> my<BR>> >> first word processor in 1979 - a Digital computer the size of a small<BR>> >> refrigerator with a 9" monochrome screen, plus a noisy daisy-wheel<BR>> impact<BR>> >> printer. Hardly desktop, and no hard drive - the word processing<BR>> program<BR>> >> ran from an 8" floppy, and documents were stored on another 8" floppy.<BR>> >> Those floppies had the massive capacity of 840KB each. That Digital<BR>> >> computer cost $12,000, but it wasn't linked to anything, so in 1980 the<BR>> >> company bought a modem to connect to another computer. That modem cost<BR>> $750.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Bob.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider@comcast.net><BR>> >>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <<BR>> >> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:48:16 PM<BR>> >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Bob,<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> I can recall when the state had a mammoth computer room in the L&I<BR>> >> Building in Harrisburg to handle all Employment Service data reporting<BR>> and<BR>> >> all the Unemployment Claims …. huge place on a raised floor to<BR>> accommodate<BR>> >> both the cabling and the air-conditing ducts to keep the main frame<BR>> >> computers cool.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Today I know what is sitting on my desk … each of them …. has far more<BR>> >> power than what put the man on the moon back in the 1960s. Probably<BR>> the<BR>> >> computers in most of our cars have more ooomph than that computer that<BR>> put<BR>> >> Armstrong on the moon.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> In the early 1980s, I was the head of an occupational information<BR>> >> program in Pennsylvania to provide data to schools and anyone else who<BR>> >> might need it … mostly for counseling kids. The federal government<BR>> wanted<BR>> >> it all done on main frame computers. In Pennsylvania, we were thinking<BR>> >> about doing it on desk top computers and passing out the information on<BR>> >> floppy disks or linking them by this new internet to desk tops in<BR>> >> Harrisburg. Washington told me that if we tried to do it that way, we<BR>> >> would not be given any grant money. Obviously someone who was making<BR>> main<BR>> >> frame computers had lobbied heavily to have things done his way.<BR>> Funny<BR>> >> thing about that … two years later, my successor told me that I had been<BR>> >> right and we're doing it your way.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> It's not your grandmother's Buick….<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Fred<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>> In 1965 I wrote and produced a slide presentation for training U.S.<BR>> >> Steel's customer service people in their offices around the U.S. I made<BR>> >> several visits to the Muriel St. facility to get background information<BR>> on<BR>> >> U.S. Steel's computer capabilities. I remember being impressed with the<BR>> >> building's climate controlled environment and the raised floors to<BR>> >> accomodate under-floor computer cables.<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Today, an i-pad is probably more powerful that the computer system in<BR>> >> that building in 1965.<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Bob<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> From: "Derrick Brashear" <shadow@dementix.org><BR>> >>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <<BR>> >> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:05:40 PM<BR>> >>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> it's a computer center<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke@comcast.net><BR>> >> wrote:<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>>> In the 1970's, USS's Muriel St. facility was the Direct Mail Center -<BR>> >>>>> computer operations, literature storage and fulfillment. If it's<BR>> >> still<BR>> >>>>> there, I'm not sure about its current function.<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran@cavtel.net><BR>> >>>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <<BR>> >>>>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:16:14 PM<BR>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> It seems that back in the "big steel" days the main producers of<BR>> >> smoke and<BR>> >>>>> fire were the USS Homestead Works and just about everything J & L had<BR>> >>>>> operating.<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> USS also has some type of operation on Muriel Street in Southside.<BR>> >> I'm not<BR>> >>>>> sure what they do there, however. USS also has a research center in<BR>> >>>>> Homestead still operating. Even with all these operating facilities,<BR>> >> the<BR>> >>>>> number of people employed by USS comes nowhere near what those<BR>> >> facilities<BR>> >>>>> used to employ.<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Dwight Long <<BR>> dwightlong@verizon.net<BR>> >>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> Herb<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> But Irvin works is not a primary producer but rather a rolling mill<BR>> >> (as<BR>> >>>>>> you said) and so would not generate the "fire and brimstone" that<BR>> >>>>>> characterized a primary steel producer.<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> I went by Clairton on a train in July and did not notice any smoke<BR>> at<BR>> >>>>> all,<BR>> >>>>>> just some condensed water vapor. I think the coking processes are<BR>> so<BR>> >>>>>> contained these days that very little emissions emanate from it.<BR>> >> Besides<BR>> >>>>>> environmental concerns, the steelmakers have learned that the<BR>> >> effluents<BR>> >>>>>> from the coke making process are valuable by products that need to<BR>> be<BR>> >>>>>> trapped and sold. The days of the beehive coke ovens that spewed<BR>> >> all the<BR>> >>>>>> byproducts into the atmosphere are long gone.<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> Dwight<BR>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> >>>>>> From: Herb Brannon<BR>> >>>>>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:41 PM<BR>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> Bob R,<BR>> >>>>>> It still had that "orange glow" when I first moved here in 1972.<BR>> >> Plus,<BR>> >>>>>> when<BR>> >>>>>> atmospheric conditions were right, it smelled like fire &<BR>> >> brimstone,<BR>> >>>>>> everywhere. Even today, on humid days, I still smell the "fire &<BR>> >>>>>> brimstone" coming from the Irvin Works just over the hill (on Camp<BR>> >>>>> Hollow<BR>> >>>>>> Rd) to the south-east of my place.<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> Contrary to popular opinion steel is not dead in Pittsburgh. The<BR>> >>>>> Clairton<BR>> >>>>>> Works still produces coke as it always did, the Edgar Thompson<BR>> >> Works<BR>> >>>>>> makes<BR>> >>>>>> primary steel, the Irvin Works produces rolled steel and the<BR>> >> relatively<BR>> >>>>>> new<BR>> >>>>>> Mckeesport Tubular Works (old National Works, now reopened) makes<BR>> >>>>> tubular<BR>> >>>>>> products for the Marcellus Shale drilling industry. So the sulphur<BR>> >> and<BR>> >>>>>> fire<BR>> >>>>>> & brimstone can still be smelled on humid days and the orange glow<BR>> >> is<BR>> >>>>>> still<BR>> >>>>>> available in Braddock and Clairton.<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke@comcast.net<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> Driving south from Zelienople at night in the 1950's you didn't<BR>> >> need<BR>> >>>>> a<BR>> >>>>>>> compass to locate Pittsburgh - the sky there always had an orange<BR>> >>>>> glow.<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler@hotmail.com><BR>> >>>>>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <<BR>> >>>>>>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:16:09 AM<BR>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> Was chatting with some PTM visitors yesterday, and among the<BR>> >>>>> "Pittsburg<BR>> >>>>>>> smells" mentioned was J&L sulfur smell upon exiting Squirrel Hill<BR>> >>>>>> Tunnels<BR>> >>>>>>> and heading downgrade to Brady St. exit. They were old enough<BR>> >> to<BR>> >>>>>> remember<BR>> >>>>>>> air pollution from late 1940s - (before my time).<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> From: dwightlong@verizon.net<BR>> >>>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:04:35 -0400<BR>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> Herb<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> In Beaver burning next to the curb was OK on concrete streets<BR>> >> (we<BR>> >>>>>> lived<BR>> >>>>>>> on one) or brick ones (still several left in the 50s) but not on<BR>> >>>>>> asphalt<BR>> >>>>>>> nor tarred ones!<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> Tar? When I was in first or second grade I came home from<BR>> >> school<BR>> >>>>> for<BR>> >>>>>>> lunch. On the way back to school the alley that I used as a<BR>> >> shortcut<BR>> >>>>>> was<BR>> >>>>>>> being freshly tarred. I followed the tar dispensing truck,<BR>> >>>>> fascinated.<BR>> >>>>>>> When I got to school I was sent home immediately. I looked<BR>> >> like the<BR>> >>>>>>> proverbial tarbaby. Lots of turpentine and stiff scrubbing<BR>> >> later,<BR>> >>>>> and<BR>> >>>>>> a<BR>> >>>>>>> new suit of clothes, I returned and was admitted.<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> And we still had plenty of coal furnaces in our town back then,<BR>> >>>>>> although<BR>> >>>>>>> our house used gas. I well recall the smell of the coal burning<BR>> >> on<BR>> >>>>>> cold<BR>> >>>>>>> winter days whilst delivering the Pittsburgh Press to my paper<BR>> >> route<BR>> >>>>>>> customers. The last time I encountered that smell was just a few<BR>> >>>>>> years ago<BR>> >>>>>>> in a suburb of Budapest while fotting the trams there. Brought<BR>> >> back<BR>> >>>>>> many<BR>> >>>>>>> memories!<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> Dwight<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> From: Herb Brannon<BR>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 21 October, 2013 10:48<BR>> >>>>>>>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves<BR>> >>>>>>>> When I was a child, in Akron, the common practice was to burn<BR>> >> the<BR>> >>>>>> leaves<BR>> >>>>>>>> in the street but along the curb stones. Sometimes the piles of<BR>> >>>>>> leaves<BR>> >>>>>>> were<BR>> >>>>>>>> so large that the fires would become too large and would<BR>> >> spread to<BR>> >>>>>> the<BR>> >>>>>>>> treelawn. Then the fire department would be called to put out<BR>> >> the<BR>> >>>>>> fires.<BR>> >>>>>>> It<BR>> >>>>>>>> made for an exciting day or evening. Ranking right up there<BR>> >> with<BR>> >>>>> the<BR>> >>>>>>> smell<BR>> >>>>>>>> of burning leaves are also the smell of coal smoke and the<BR>> >> smell of<BR>> >>>>>> fresh<BR>> >>>>>>>> tar.............three of the "little joys of life" now gone by<BR>> >> the<BR>> >>>>>>> wayside.<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Dwight Long <<BR>> >>>>>> dwightlong@verizon.net<BR>> >>>>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>> Herb<BR>> >>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>> I can remember back in the 50s coming back to Beaver from<BR>> >> auto<BR>> >>>>>> trips to<BR>> >>>>>>>>> the East that involved the Pa Turnpike—we would use the<BR>> >>>>> Warrendale<BR>> >>>>>>> exit and<BR>> >>>>>>>>> the back roads to Beaver. Coming down into the (Beaver)<BR>> >> valley<BR>> >>>>>> off the<BR>> >>>>>>>>> hill the whole floor of the valley would be engulfed in leaf<BR>> >>>>> smoke.<BR>> >>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>> Unhealthy, they say, but it sure did convey the impression<BR>> >> that<BR>> >>>>>> Autumn<BR>> >>>>>>> was<BR>> >>>>>>>>> upon us!<BR>> >>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>> Dwight<BR>> >>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>> From: Herb Brannon<BR>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 20 October, 2013 10:36<BR>> >>>>>>>>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Phil asked about music<BR>> >>>>>>>>> You mentioned something I really miss.............the smell<BR>> >> of<BR>> >>>>>> burning<BR>> >>>>>>>>> leaves in October.<BR>> >>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:37 AM, DF Cramer <<BR>> >>>>>> alto_trombone@hotmail.com<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, what have I been up to? The beginning of the month I<BR>> >>>>>> performed<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> Copland, Brahms, & Dvorak with the Butler County<BR>> >> Symphony,our<BR>> >>>>> (my<BR>> >>>>>>> wife<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> plays cello) 28th season with the ensemble. I am back at<BR>> >> IUP<BR>> >>>>> and<BR>> >>>>>>>>> delivered<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> two arrangements of French Noels from the Baroque period to<BR>> >>>>>> begin the<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> semester and last week conducted a first reading of my "The<BR>> >>>>>> Eternal<BR>> >>>>>>>>> Flame",<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> a commemorative piece for double trombone choir and<BR>> >> narrator I<BR>> >>>>>> wrote<BR>> >>>>>>> to<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> mark the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination.<BR>> >> All of<BR>> >>>>>> that<BR>> >>>>>>> will<BR>> >>>>>>>>> be<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> performed on November 19 at the university. Next week I<BR>> >> perform<BR>> >>>>>> with<BR>> >>>>>>> IUP<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> brass & organ faculty at Zion Lutheran in Indiana for<BR>> >>>>> Reformation<BR>> >>>>>>> Sunday<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> and the following week we are doing Charlie Chaplin's "City<BR>> >>>>>> Lights"<BR>> >>>>>>> in<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> Butler. Chaplin created the musical score for this silent<BR>> >> film<BR>> >>>>>> and we<BR>> >>>>>>>>> will<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> be showing the film as we perform. (Side note: if you want<BR>> >>>>>> tickets<BR>> >>>>>>> let me<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> know as soon as possible--I usually get 4 free ones)<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> Other than that, I spent quality time with Ed at the<BR>> >> Alle-Kiski<BR>> >>>>>>>>> Historical<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> Society, led a new operator training class at PTM, printed<BR>> >> and<BR>> >>>>>>> stuffed<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> ballots for PTM, and am going to the opera today to see<BR>> >> Aida<BR>> >>>>>>> (football<BR>> >>>>>>>>> fan<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> alert--Franco Harris is leading the Grand March in the<BR>> >> opera<BR>> >>>>>> today)<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> I spend lots of time practicing and cleaning up leaves. I<BR>> >>>>> mulch<BR>> >>>>>>> some and<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> burn others---yes we are still permitted to burn here.<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> If you missed it--I also performed at the PTM 50th<BR>> >> Anniversary<BR>> >>>>>>> luncheon.<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> See the most recent issue of PTM Trolley Fare, Fred<BR>> >> Schneider<BR>> >>>>>> took<BR>> >>>>>>> some<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> great images.<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> Dennis F. Cramer<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/<BR>> >>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:49:49 -0700<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: pcc_sr@yahoo.com<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] still having issues<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> Stereo-vision isn't it Mr.Cramer! Soapbox opportunity;<BR>> >> make<BR>> >>>>>> the<BR>> >>>>>>> most<BR>> >>>>>>>>> of<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> it!<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> You have not recently mentioned anything about your<BR>> >> concert<BR>> >>>>> or<BR>> >>>>>>> music<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> engagements.<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> I find them fascinating. Music is not at all unlike<BR>> >> laughter<BR>> >>>>>> is<BR>> >>>>>>> it;<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> both speak a universal language.<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes; BB are the last posts I have seen. There was not<BR>> >> much<BR>> >>>>> of<BR>> >>>>>>> anything<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> before your BB posts for several weeks. You mentioned a<BR>> >> book<BR>> >>>>> in<BR>> >>>>>>> relation<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> to this; please tell more.<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> Phil<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10/19/13, DF Cramer <alto_trombone@hotmail.com><BR>> >>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] still having issues<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org" <<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 3:52 AM<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> it seemed very interesting that after<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> I posted on the list, several emails came through. I<BR>> >> assume<BR>> >>>>>> people<BR>> >>>>>>>>> were<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> responding with reply all. I have received no posts from<BR>> >> the<BR>> >>>>>> list<BR>> >>>>>>> other<BR>> >>>>>>>>>> than those dealing with Billy Baxter.<BR>> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dennis F. 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