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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Herb</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Isn't this true to a greater or lesser extent
all over the country? Local accents and words being turfed out by
homogenization--driven by both greater intermixing of populations plus the TV
influence?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=hrbran@cavtel.net href="mailto:hrbran@cavtel.net">Herb Brannon</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 28, 2013 9:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and
Coal</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dwight,<BR><BR>Like I say, you seldom hear that "Pittsburgh
Speak" now. Believe me, I talk<BR>to people everywhere I go and I don't
come across it very often. When I<BR>lived here previously it was heard
constantly. In fact just a few days ago<BR>I was talking to someone about the
lack of Pittsburghese in Pittsburgh<BR>these days. Some people still have a
slight "accent" but nothing like it<BR>used to be and the corruption of words
is almost gone. Oddly enough this<BR>week in Pittsburgh is "Redd Up Week" as
proclaimed by the city government<BR>to get people to clean up their
neighborhood streets, yards, etc.<BR><BR>One thing from the old era I did
find, however, is located at the<BR>intersection of Brownsville Road and
Willock Avenue. The traffic signals<BR>are all mounted on the posts on the
corners of the intersection and cycle<BR>through the Green - Yellow/Green -
Red sequence like they used to do. The<BR>posts and signals are painted yellow
and black as was always the case. All<BR>the signals at that intersection are
on the side, nothing is hanging in the<BR>center. Work is now being done on
that part of Brownsville between Marylee<BR>and Willock so those signals may
not have long to go.<BR><BR>Also, last year I posted a comment concerning
Brookline and Brookline Blvd<BR>and how, except for the trolleys, it looked
the same as it did 40 years<BR>ago. Not so now. They have completed about half
of the project which has<BR>seen the street rebuilt from the ground up, the
car tracks removed, new<BR>sidewalks, new traffic signals and new LED street
lighting. The original<BR>poles which PRCo used to hold up the trolley wire
have been taken away and<BR>refinished very nicely. They are being reinstalled
on the completed<BR>sections of Brookline Blvd and have old-looking new LED
streetlamps hanging<BR>from them. These poles used to be a medium green color,
the refinished ones<BR>are shinny black.<BR><BR><BR>On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at
8:29 PM, Dwight Long <<A
href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net">dwightlong@verizon.net</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>><BR>> Herb<BR>><BR>> The speaker at the LBHS
seminar Fri-Sat spoke very presentable<BR>> Pittsburghese. And he is
a former HS English teacher!<BR>><BR>> Dwight<BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>> From: Herb
Brannon<BR>> To: Western PA Trolley
discussion<BR>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 7:48
PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and
Coal<BR>><BR>><BR>> Interesting is the use of
"dawntawn" in one post. One is very hard<BR>>
pressed<BR>> to find anyone speaking in that formerly common
"Pittsburghese" form of<BR>> speech. I noticed this when I
moved back and started checking out why the<BR>> corruption of
certain words is no longer heard and found out, from a<BR>>
group<BR>> of people now between 30 and 50 years old, that the
Pittsburgh Public<BR>> Schools actually mandated that students
be taught the proper<BR>> pronunciation<BR>> of the
language. It apparently worked. I have heard only one person
speak<BR>> Pittsburghese, out of hundreds of people I have had
conversations with,<BR>> since April,
2013.<BR>><BR>> Oh yes, also for Fred.......what did you
want me to delete without<BR>> reading?? I saw nothing in that
short sentence that was life changing for<BR>> me. I will be
the judge of what I read or delete.........thanks
anyway.<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:56 PM,
Fred Schneider <<A
href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net">fwschneider@comcast.net</A><BR>>
>wrote:<BR>><BR>> > Long befo. I thought
Boggs and Buhl closed about 1950 because my<BR>> > mother's
brother told a story of how he went to their going out of<BR>>
business<BR>> > sale to buy clothing for his kids
he had
moved up to Cheswick in the<BR>> huge<BR>> > Nov. 1950
storm. The story concluded with the store forgetting to<BR>>
send<BR>> > him the charge account bill and when he called
to ask where it was, all<BR>> > their phones were
disconnected.<BR>> ><BR>> > But this link
claims it closed as a result of the opening of North<BR>>
Hills<BR>> > Mall in 1955 and the actual closure was in
1960.<BR>> ><BR>>
> <A
href="http://buhlplanetarium2.tripod.com/bio/boggsbuhl.htm">http://buhlplanetarium2.tripod.com/bio/boggsbuhl.htm</A><BR>>
><BR>> > Rosenbaums on Liberty Avenue dawntawn apparently
also closed in 1960.<BR>> ><BR>>
> <A
href="http://www.lifeinwesternpa.org/viewDetail.asp?ID=56">http://www.lifeinwesternpa.org/viewDetail.asp?ID=56</A><BR>>
><BR>> > Gimbel's closed sometime in 1986 or
1987. The problem with having<BR>> family<BR>>
> that was in Pittsburgh back to the time of the Civil War is
someone<BR>> always<BR>> > told you of this or that
connection. In this case, it was an aunt of<BR>>
my<BR>> > mom's who worked for Kauffman and Bear, the firm
that had the store at<BR>> 6th<BR>> > and Smithfield
before Gimbel's.<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> <A
href="http://departmentstoremuseum.blogspot.com/2010/06/gimbels-pittsburgh-pennsylvania.html">http://departmentstoremuseum.blogspot.com/2010/06/gimbels-pittsburgh-pennsylvania.html</A><BR>>
><BR>> > <A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbels">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbels</A><BR>>
><BR>> > <A
href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/army_arch/293068499/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/army_arch/293068499/</A><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > On Oct 28, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Dwight Long
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >
><BR>> > > Fred<BR>> >
><BR>> > > If you are talking about da Burgh, my
recollection is that both<BR>> Boggs &<BR>> > Buhls
and Rosenbaum's went under before Gimbels.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > But if you mean
Lancaster------------<BR>> > ><BR>> >
> Dwight<BR>> > > ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> > > From: Fred
Schneider<BR>> > > To: Western PA Trolley
discussion<BR>> > > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013
12:16 PM<BR>> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning
Leaves--and Coal<BR>> > ><BR>> >
><BR>> > > Herb, I am not insulting Adam
Gimbel. I am using "cheap" in the<BR>> > English
language sense, not the way the American's have adulterated it<BR>>
to<BR>> > mean "crappy" or "no good". It means
economical, as in the "cheap day<BR>> > return ticket" in
Britain
translated means the bargain one day round<BR>>
trip<BR>> > ticket.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > Gimbels was the cheap (bargain) store
but they were not in a<BR>> position<BR>> > to compete
with the likes of WalMart and it this area they were the<BR>>
first<BR>> > department store to fold. If I had
to make a comparison, it would be<BR>> the<BR>> > British
Home Store
yes I have a favorite shirt with a BHS label.<BR>>
That's<BR>> > what happens when you vacationed so many times
in Britain.<BR>> > ><BR>> > >
Sadly, Gimbels was not only the economical store but locally they<BR>>
had<BR>> > some of the worst help too. He could
not stay in business when<BR>> WalMart or<BR>> > K-Mart
had no help and he was paying for doofuses. I remember one<BR>>
day I<BR>> > went into the Gimbels store to buy something
for my wife. A friend<BR>> who<BR>> > was a
PennDOT attorney was with me. He had just returned from a<BR>>
vacation<BR>> > in Japan. I could not get any of
the sales girls to wait on me.<BR>> They<BR>> > were all
having a hen party. So I lead Gareth over until we were<BR>>
within<BR>> > hearing range of the goofing off sales clerks,
and then looked at him<BR>> and<BR>> > said, "Is it true
what you told me
that in Japan the sales clerks<BR>> >
actually are hired to wait on the customers?" He played it to
the<BR>> hilt<BR>> > and those girls went
balistic. How dare you insult them by expecting<BR>>
them<BR>> > to work. They told us off at full
volume. And naturally, we went to<BR>> > another
store in the mall. I think I saw some other customers<BR>>
evacuating<BR>> > Adam Gimbel's store.<BR>>
> ><BR>> > > I think there were some other
problems too. Each region operated<BR>> >
independently. My charge card for Gimbels in Lancaster was only
good<BR>> in<BR>> > the Philadelphia region
stores. It was not valid in Pittsburgh or<BR>> >
Chicago. It might get immediate clearance for a temporary card
there<BR>> but<BR>> > I had to apply there if I wanted
credit.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Of
course, doesn't matter. They are gone.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > Saks? No such thing
here. Nearest is in King of Prussia. And<BR>>
I<BR>> > never heard of a Barneys
. New York store isn't
it?<BR>> > ><BR>> > >
Lancaster County, Pa., was an area that thrived through the
1980s<BR>> and<BR>> > then crashed. For many
years we had lower wage rates than the<BR>> national<BR>>
> average, which means it isn't the place people who want really
high<BR>> wages<BR>> > come but it might be where a
corporation wants to come to build a<BR>> factory.<BR>>
> All through the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, one company after
another came<BR>> here<BR>> > to exploit the cheap labor
and the "Amish work ethic." The result<BR>> was
a<BR>> > doubling of the population from 1950 to 2000.
But when you stress the<BR>> > local economy and push the
unemployment rate down to half the national<BR>> >
unemployment rate (it was actually as low here as 1.4 percent in the<BR>>
summer<BR>> > of 1964), that puts extreme pressure on
wages. They rose. Unions<BR>> become<BR>>
> popular. So popular that one by one the factories close and
the<BR>> > corporations decide we don't don't need this
shit. This was a major<BR>> > garment
manufacturing center
all those plants closed. Roughly
10,000<BR>> > shoe, garment and textile jobs
vanished. Those jobs went first to<BR>>
Mexico<BR>> > under the North American Free Trade Agreement
and then to China and<BR>> > southeast
Asia. A lot of recreational vehicle plants were
built<BR>> here in<BR>> > the 1980s
we decided fuel is
too expensive to tow those trailers so<BR>> those<BR>> >
plant closed. Armstrong once employed several thousand people
here<BR>> making<BR>> > linoleum and other resilient
floor coverings
. they still do it but in<BR>> >
right-to-work states and in new plants on one floor. In the 1960s
RCA<BR>> had<BR>> > about 3000 people building color TV
sets here and in Wilkes-Barre;<BR>> then<BR>> >
they were introduced to Sony. Hamilton Watch used to employ
almost<BR>> 2000<BR>> > people making watches
no one
wants quality watches
the last<BR>> remnant of<BR>> >
the company was sold to a Swiss firm
they're "out of here" and
the<BR>> > building is an apartment now. We
still have manufacturing but its<BR>> about<BR>> > half
the number of workers we had in that sector in 1970. We
now<BR>> have<BR>> > unemployment over 6% and routine
shootings and burglaries as a means of<BR>> > supporting
each other
it's called income transfer. We no
longer<BR>> have<BR>> > any upper end
stores. We don't have as many upper income people<BR>>
today.<BR>> > I guess they're in Dallas today.
But at my age, no reason to move.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > The sad thing about the crash here,
Herb, was unlike Pittsburgh, it<BR>> > affected a young
population to begin with. When steel went down in<BR>>
1982<BR>> > in Pittsburgh, it wasn't something new.
They already had 20 years of<BR>> > on-again, off-again
problems with the mills. Allegheny County's<BR>>
population<BR>> > was relatively stable after 1930 in the
1.4 to 1.6 million range. It<BR>> > actually
began dropping from 1.629 million in 1960 to 1.450 million<BR>>
before<BR>> > the big collapse of steel in 1982
the kids
were already leaving home<BR>> and<BR>> > going where the
jobs were. You cannot have really high unemployment<BR>>
when<BR>> > people go directly from working to pensions
they are out of the labor<BR>> > force.<BR>>
> ><BR>> > > But Lancaster was still growing
rapidly when our crash came. We<BR>> had<BR>>
> 212,000 in 1940 and 423,000 in 1990 when things began to soften,<BR>>
471,000 in<BR>> > 2000 and 519,000 in 2010. Part
of the anomaly of a tapering economy<BR>> along<BR>> >
with growth is that we have also found ourselves within commuting<BR>>
distance<BR>> > of Philadelphia's suburban job market and
now the same for the<BR>> northeastern<BR>> > suburbs of
Baltimore. For a while, until the state began to decide<BR>>
they<BR>> > didn't want workers, the northwestern part of
this county was also<BR>> > attractive for people working in
the state capital
only 20 minutes<BR>> away<BR>> > on
the train. Trouble is, Herb, if that guy gets laid off in<BR>>
Philadelphia<BR>> > he is still among the 6.5% unemployed in
Lancaster. And, as you can<BR>> see<BR>> >
from those numbers, we have over 50,000 homes built in the last 40<BR>>
years
.<BR>> > not the same as someone who built a
house in Pittsburgh in 1935.<BR>> When<BR>> > you have a
couple who built a house in 1990 and the area crashes and<BR>>
they<BR>> > still have a mortgage, you have
problems.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > On
Oct 27, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Herb Brannon wrote:<BR>> >
><BR>> > >> Don't let Adam Gimble hear you say
that. Oh yes, I<BR>> >
forgot.............all<BR>> > >> you Lancaster people
only shop at Barneys and Saks.<BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Fred Schneider <<BR>> >
<A
href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote">fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote</A>:<BR>>
> >><BR>> > >>> Ah yes, Gimbels
the
cheap department store. But like so many<BR>>
others<BR>> > >>> driven out of business by K-Mart,
WalMart, Target and so forth, it<BR>> no<BR>> >
>>> longer exists.<BR>> >
>>><BR>> > >>> My first introduction to
any form of electronic mail was a captive<BR>> >
>>> in-house system that the state operated for its own
departmental<BR>> > >>> operations. Today it's own
system has been scrapped and it is<BR>> using the<BR>> >
>>> internet. But it was a fantastic system that allowed
us to get<BR>> stuff<BR>> > out<BR>> >
>>> of Harrisburg the same day they got it
of course transmission
was<BR>> > >>> excruciatingly
slow.<BR>> > >>><BR>> >
>>> The earliest memory I have of any such system, however<BR>>
rudimentary, was<BR>> > >>> the state Job Bank
which would have been in the very early 1970s.<BR>> > All
job<BR>> > >>> orders, referral and placement
transactions were scanned with a<BR>> slow<BR>> >
speed<BR>> > >>> rotary drum scanner about the same
number of lines as an old<BR>> television<BR>> >
>>> screen and then sent over telephone lines to Harrisburg to be
be<BR>> > processed<BR>> > >>>
into the main frame computer.<BR>> >
>>><BR>> > >>> Hard to believe that, in
the space of forty years, we have gone<BR>> from<BR>> >
that<BR>> > >>> to being able to send letters and
photographs and drawings back and<BR>> >
forth<BR>> > >>> to buddies anywhere in the world
in real time. We can all<BR>> remember<BR>> >
when a<BR>> > >>> letter to Europe took a week to
be delivered and now, if we are<BR>> both<BR>> >
awake<BR>> > >>> and near our computers at the same
time, I can pass a half dozen<BR>> >
e-mails<BR>> > >>> back and forth to the same
person in Vienna or Berlin or rural<BR>> eastern<BR>> >
>>> England
. as we watch the postal service go
bankrupt.<BR>> > >>><BR>> >
>>><BR>> > >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 8:13
PM, Herb Brannon wrote:<BR>> >
>>><BR>> > >>>>
John,<BR>> > >>>> There was a "kinda" Internet
back in the early/mid 1980s. It was<BR>> >
nothing<BR>> > >>>> like we're using today,
however.<BR>> > >>>><BR>> >
>>>> I had just bought a brand new Commodore 64 complete system
at<BR>> Gimbles<BR>> > in<BR>> >
>>>> downtown Pittsburgh. Interesting that both Gimbles and
the<BR>> Commodore<BR>> > 64<BR>> >
>>>> have gone to the museum of memories. My C64 was very
"cutting<BR>> edge"<BR>> > for<BR>> >
>>>> 1983/84 inasmuch as I had the keyboard, monitor ( nothing
more<BR>> than a<BR>> > >>>> television set
with only green and black color), dataset (for<BR>>
programs<BR>> > >>> and<BR>> >
>>>> storage on cassette tape), two (mind you, two !) floppy
disk<BR>> drives<BR>> > (so I<BR>> >
>>>> didn't have to switch between program and data-storage disks
on<BR>> only<BR>> > one<BR>> >
>>>> disk drive), and a dot-matrix printer with these little
DIP<BR>> switches<BR>> > in<BR>> >
>>> the<BR>> > >>>> back which could be
set to produce ten different print styles,<BR>> and a<BR>>
> >>> little<BR>> > >>>> rectangle
shaped box which plugged into the back of the keyboard<BR>>
and<BR>> > was<BR>> > >>>>
called a "modem". For what I paid for all that stuff I could have<BR>>
used<BR>> > >>> that<BR>> >
>>>> same dollar amount today and purchased three or four
complete<BR>> computer<BR>> > >>>>
set-ups.<BR>> > >>>><BR>> >
>>>> Anyway, I wanted to use this investment to its fullest so
I<BR>> signed up<BR>> > for<BR>> >
>>>> this service which was advertised as "connecting computers
and<BR>> their<BR>> > >>>
users"<BR>> > >>>> for the purpose of
transmitting "mail-like electronic messages"<BR>> and<BR>>
> >>>> providing "interest groups" on varying subject matter.
It was,<BR>> for all<BR>> > >>>> purposes,
the beginning of the Internet. The "Mail-like electronic<BR>>
> >>> message"<BR>> > >>>> service
was called MCI Mail. You could send messages to other<BR>>
users<BR>> > who<BR>> > >>>>
were on this system and you could also sent messages to people<BR>> not
on<BR>> > the<BR>> > >>>>
service via this MCI Mail in selected US cities. For people not<BR>>
hooked<BR>> > >>> into<BR>> >
>>>> the "network" via computer, the messages went to a MCI
facility<BR>> > (located<BR>> >
>>> in<BR>> > >>>> several major
cities, Pittsburgh included) and were then<BR>> delivered
by<BR>> > a<BR>> > >>>>
messenger to any address in downtown Pittsburgh or the downtown<BR>>
area<BR>> > of<BR>> > >>>
the<BR>> > >>>> other cities in the network. The
drawbacks were many, including<BR>> the<BR>> >
>>>> messenger service, the fact that only the downtown areas
of<BR>> several<BR>> > major<BR>> >
>>>> cities could be accessed via this service, and the cost.
This<BR>> service<BR>> > >>>
last<BR>> > >>>> only a few months as more and
more people and businesses began<BR>> using<BR>> >
>>>> computers and became connected.<BR>> >
>>>><BR>> > >>>> There were no
photographs on this system, only plain text.<BR>> However,
it<BR>> > >>> was<BR>> >
>>>> the start of what we have today and I'm happy that I was a
part<BR>> of it.<BR>> >
>>>><BR>> > >>>><BR>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM, John Swindler
<<BR>> > <A
href="mailto:j_swindler@hotmail.com">j_swindler@hotmail.com</A><BR>>
> >>>> wrote:<BR>> >
>>>><BR>> >
>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>> In 1968/9
Point Park College had a relatively new IBM System 360<BR>>
> >>> computer.<BR>> > >>>>> It
was a stand alone unit about 5-6 feet high. An instructor<BR>>
said<BR>> > that<BR>> >
>>>>> the CPU took up less than a foot of this height - the
rest was<BR>> empty<BR>> > >>>
space.<BR>> > >>>>> This was to fool
purchasing agents who expected computers to be<BR>> big<BR>>
> and<BR>> > >>>>> bulky.
Miniaturization was already occurring.<BR>> >
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>> Doubt if
you were thinking of using the internet in early 1980s,<BR>>
> Fred.<BR>> > >>>>> Mid-1990s, perhaps,
but not 1980s.<BR>> >
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>> A problem
in the 1980s was the proliferation of computer<BR>> >
manufacturers<BR>> > >>> and<BR>>
> >>>>> non-compatible software. Also speed even when
there was a<BR>> program<BR>> > that<BR>>
> >>>>> could convert from one language to another.
We're talking 8086<BR>> and<BR>> >
286<BR>> > >>>>> chips. Today it seems
that instantaneous just doesn't seem fast<BR>> >
>>> enough. I<BR>> > >>>>>
remember a LOTUS 1-2-3 spreadsheet. Enter a bunch of data, tell<BR>>
it<BR>> > to<BR>> > >>>>>
compute, then go for a cup of coffee. It was used to produce
the<BR>> > >>>>> Pennsylvania Mass Transit
Statistical Report.<BR>> >
>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>> Date:
Sat, 26 Oct 2013 02:04:10 +0000<BR>> >
>>>>>> From: <A
href="mailto:bobrathke@comcast.net">bobrathke@comcast.net</A><BR>>
> >>>>>> To: <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and
Coal<BR>> > >>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>> Most of us from the 1970's have these computer
stories, Fred. I<BR>> > used<BR>> >
>>> my<BR>> > >>>>> first word
processor in 1979 - a Digital computer the size of a<BR>>
small<BR>> > >>>>> refrigerator with a 9"
monochrome screen, plus a noisy<BR>> daisy-wheel<BR>> >
>>> impact<BR>> > >>>>>
printer. Hardly desktop, and no hard drive - the word
processing<BR>> > >>> program<BR>>
> >>>>> ran from an 8" floppy, and documents were stored on
another 8"<BR>> > floppy.<BR>> >
>>>>> Those floppies had the massive capacity of 840KB each.
That<BR>> Digital<BR>> > >>>>> computer
cost $12,000, but it wasn't linked to anything, so in<BR>>
1980<BR>> > the<BR>> >
>>>>> company bought a modem to connect to another computer.
That modem<BR>> > cost<BR>> > >>>
$750.<BR>> > >>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>> Bob.<BR>> >
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>> >
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>
From: "Fred Schneider" <<A
href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net">fwschneider@comcast.net</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
<<BR>> > >>>>> <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:48:16
PM<BR>> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo]
Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>
Bob,<BR>> > >>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>> I can recall when the state had a mammoth
computer room in the<BR>> L&I<BR>> >
>>>>> Building in Harrisburg to handle all Employment Service
data<BR>> > reporting<BR>> > >>>
and<BR>> > >>>>> all the Unemployment Claims
. huge place on a raised floor to<BR>> > >>>
accommodate<BR>> > >>>>> both the cabling and
the air-conditing ducts to keep the main<BR>> frame<BR>>
> >>>>> computers cool.<BR>> >
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>
Today I know what is sitting on my desk
each of them
. has<BR>>
far<BR>> > more<BR>> >
>>>>> power than what put the man on the moon back in the
1960s.<BR>> Probably<BR>> > >>>
the<BR>> > >>>>> computers in most of our
cars have more ooomph than that computer<BR>> >
that<BR>> > >>> put<BR>> >
>>>>> Armstrong on the moon.<BR>> >
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>> In
the early 1980s, I was the head of an occupational<BR>>
information<BR>> > >>>>> program in
Pennsylvania to provide data to schools and anyone<BR>>
else<BR>> > who<BR>> >
>>>>> might need it
mostly for counseling kids.
The federal<BR>> government<BR>> > >>>
wanted<BR>> > >>>>> it all done on main frame
computers. In Pennsylvania, we were<BR>> >
thinking<BR>> > >>>>> about doing it on desk
top computers and passing out the<BR>> information<BR>> >
on<BR>> > >>>>> floppy disks or linking them
by this new internet to desk tops in<BR>> >
>>>>> Harrisburg. Washington told me that if we
tried to do it that<BR>> way,<BR>> >
we<BR>> > >>>>> would not be given any grant
money. Obviously someone who was<BR>> >
making<BR>> > >>> main<BR>> >
>>>>> frame computers had lobbied heavily to have things done
his way.<BR>> > >>> Funny<BR>> >
>>>>> thing about that
two years later, my successor told me
that I<BR>> had<BR>> > been<BR>> >
>>>>> right and we're doing it your way.<BR>>
> >>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>> It's not your grandmother's
Buick
.<BR>> > >>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>> Fred<BR>> >
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>> On
Oct 25, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:<BR>> >
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>>
In 1965 I wrote and produced a slide presentation for training<BR>>
U.S.<BR>> > >>>>> Steel's customer service
people in their offices around the U.S.<BR>> I<BR>>
> made<BR>> > >>>>> several visits to the
Muriel St. facility to get background<BR>> >
information<BR>> > >>> on<BR>> >
>>>>> U.S. Steel's computer capabilities. I remember
being impressed<BR>> with<BR>> > the<BR>>
> >>>>> building's climate controlled environment and the
raised floors<BR>> to<BR>> > >>>>>
accomodate under-floor computer cables.<BR>> >
>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>> Today, an i-pad is probably more powerful that
the computer<BR>> system<BR>> > in<BR>>
> >>>>> that building in 1965.<BR>> >
>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>> Bob<BR>> >
>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>
> >>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>> From: "Derrick Brashear" <<A
href="mailto:shadow@dementix.org">shadow@dementix.org</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
<<BR>> > >>>>> <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:05:40
PM<BR>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo]
Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >
>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>> it's a computer center<BR>> >
>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Bob Rathke
<<BR>> > <A
href="mailto:bobrathke@comcast.net">bobrathke@comcast.net</A>><BR>>
> >>>>> wrote:<BR>> >
>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>> In the 1970's, USS's Muriel St. facility was
the Direct Mail<BR>> > Center -<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> computer operations, literature storage and
fulfillment. If<BR>> it's<BR>> >
>>>>> still<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> there, I'm not sure about its current
function.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> >
>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>> From: "Herb Brannon" <<A
href="mailto:hrbran@cavtel.net">hrbran@cavtel.net</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
<<BR>> > >>>>>>>> <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:16:14
PM<BR>> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
[PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >
>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>> It seems that back in the "big steel" days
the main producers<BR>> of<BR>> > >>>>>
smoke and<BR>> > >>>>>>>> fire were
the USS Homestead Works and just about everything J<BR>> &
L<BR>> > had<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> operating.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>> USS also has some type of operation on Muriel
Street in<BR>> Southside.<BR>> > >>>>> I'm
not<BR>> > >>>>>>>> sure what they
do there, however. USS also has a research<BR>> center<BR>>
> in<BR>> > >>>>>>>> Homestead
still operating. Even with all these operating<BR>> >
facilities,<BR>> > >>>>>
the<BR>> > >>>>>>>> number of people
employed by USS comes nowhere near what those<BR>> >
>>>>> facilities<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> used to employ.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Dwight Long
<<BR>> > >>> <A
href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net">dwightlong@verizon.net</A><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >
>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Herb<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> But Irvin works is not a primary producer
but rather a<BR>> rolling<BR>> > mill<BR>>
> >>>>> (as<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> you said) and so would not generate the
"fire and brimstone"<BR>> that<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> characterized a primary steel
producer.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> I went by Clairton on a train in July and
did not notice any<BR>> > smoke<BR>> >
>>> at<BR>> > >>>>>>>>
all,<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> just some
condensed water vapor. I think the coking<BR>>
processes<BR>> > are<BR>> > >>>
so<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> contained
these days that very little emissions emanate from<BR>>
it.<BR>> > >>>>> Besides<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>> environmental concerns, the
steelmakers have learned that the<BR>> >
>>>>> effluents<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> from the coke making process are valuable
by products that<BR>> need<BR>> > to<BR>>
> >>> be<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> trapped and sold. The days of the
beehive coke ovens that<BR>> spewed<BR>> >
>>>>> all the<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> byproducts into the atmosphere are long
gone.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Dwight<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> From: Herb
Brannon<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> To:
Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:41
PM<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
[PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Bob R,<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> It still had that "orange glow" when I
first moved here in<BR>> 1972.<BR>> >
>>>>> Plus,<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> when<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> atmospheric conditions were right, it
smelled like fire &<BR>> > >>>>>
brimstone,<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
everywhere. Even today, on humid days, I still smell the<BR>> "fire
&<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> brimstone"
coming from the Irvin Works just over the hill (on<BR>> >
Camp<BR>> > >>>>>>>>
Hollow<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> Rd) to
the south-east of my place.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Contrary to popular opinion steel is not
dead in Pittsburgh.<BR>> The<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> Clairton<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Works still produces coke as it always
did, the Edgar<BR>> Thompson<BR>> > >>>>>
Works<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
makes<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> primary
steel, the Irvin Works produces rolled steel and the<BR>> >
>>>>> relatively<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> new<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Mckeesport Tubular Works (old National
Works, now reopened)<BR>> makes<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> tubular<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> products for the Marcellus Shale drilling
industry. So the<BR>> > sulphur<BR>> >
>>>>> and<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> fire<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> & brimstone can still be smelled on
humid days and the orange<BR>> > glow<BR>>
> >>>>> is<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> still<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> available in Braddock and
Clairton.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Bob
Rathke <<BR>> > <A
href="mailto:bobrathke@comcast.net">bobrathke@comcast.net</A><BR>>
> >>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Driving south from Zelienople at
night in the 1950's you<BR>> didn't<BR>> >
>>>>> need<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> a<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> compass to locate Pittsburgh - the
sky there always had an<BR>> > orange<BR>>
> >>>>>>>> glow.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> From: "John Swindler" <<A
href="mailto:j_swindler@hotmail.com">j_swindler@hotmail.com</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Western PA Trolley
discussion" <<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013
10:16:09 AM<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Was chatting with some PTM visitors
yesterday, and among the<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> "Pittsburg<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> smells" mentioned was J&L sulfur
smell upon exiting Squirrel<BR>> > Hill<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>> Tunnels<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> and heading downgrade to Brady St.
exit. They were old<BR>> enough<BR>> >
>>>>> to<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> remember<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> air pollution from late 1940s -
(before my time).<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> From: <A
href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net">dwightlong@verizon.net</A><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013
11:04:35 -0400<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning
Leaves--and Coal<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Herb<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> In Beaver burning next to the
curb was OK on concrete<BR>> streets<BR>> >
>>>>> (we<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> lived<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> on one) or brick ones (still several
left in the 50s) but<BR>> not on<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> asphalt<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> nor tarred ones!<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Tar? When I was in first or
second grade I came home from<BR>> > >>>>>
school<BR>> > >>>>>>>>
for<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
lunch. On the way back to school the alley that I used as
a<BR>> > >>>>> shortcut<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>> was<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> being freshly tarred. I
followed the tar dispensing truck,<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> fascinated.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> When I got to school I was sent home
immediately. I looked<BR>> > >>>>> like
the<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
proverbial tarbaby. Lots of turpentine and stiff
scrubbing<BR>> > >>>>>
later,<BR>> > >>>>>>>>
and<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
a<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>> new suit
of clothes, I returned and was admitted.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> And we still had plenty of coal
furnaces in our town back<BR>> then,<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> although<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> our house used gas. I well
recall the smell of the coal<BR>> burning<BR>> >
>>>>> on<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> cold<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> winter days whilst delivering the
Pittsburgh Press to my<BR>> paper<BR>> >
>>>>> route<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> customers. The last time I
encountered that smell was just<BR>> a<BR>> >
few<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> years
ago<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>> in a
suburb of Budapest while fotting the trams there.<BR>>
Brought<BR>> > >>>>> back<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>> many<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> memories!<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Dwight<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Herb
Brannon<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Monday, 21 October, 2013 10:48<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Western PA Trolley
discussion<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning
Leaves<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
When I was a child, in Akron, the common practice was to<BR>>
burn<BR>> > >>>>> the<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>> leaves<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> in the street but along the curb
stones. Sometimes the<BR>> piles of<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> leaves<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> were<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> so large that the fires would
become too large and would<BR>> > >>>>>
spread to<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
the<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
treelawn. Then the fire department would be called to put<BR>>
out<BR>> > >>>>> the<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> fires.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> It<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> made for an exciting day or
evening. Ranking right up there<BR>> > >>>>>
with<BR>> > >>>>>>>>
the<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
smell<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>> of
burning leaves are also the smell of coal smoke and the<BR>>
> >>>>> smell of<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> fresh<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> tar.............three of the
"little joys of life" now<BR>> gone by<BR>> >
>>>>> the<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> wayside.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM,
Dwight Long <<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
<A
href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net">dwightlong@verizon.net</A><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Herb<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remember back in the
50s coming back to Beaver from<BR>> > >>>>>
auto<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> trips
to<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
the East that involved the Pa Turnpikewe would use the<BR>>
> >>>>>>>> Warrendale<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> exit and<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> the back roads to
Beaver. Coming down into the (Beaver)<BR>> >
>>>>> valley<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> off the<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> hill the whole floor of the
valley would be engulfed in<BR>> leaf<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> smoke.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unhealthy, they say, but it
sure did convey the impression<BR>> > >>>>>
that<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
Autumn<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
was<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
upon us!<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dwight<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Herb
Brannon<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 20 October,
2013 10:36<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Western PA Trolley
discussion<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Phil
asked about music<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> You mentioned something I
really miss.............the<BR>> smell<BR>> >
>>>>> of<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> burning<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> leaves in
October.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:37
AM, DF Cramer <<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> <A
href="mailto:alto_trombone@hotmail.com">alto_trombone@hotmail.com</A><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, what have I been up
to? The beginning of the month<BR>> I<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> performed<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Copland, Brahms, &
Dvorak with the Butler County<BR>> > >>>>>
Symphony,our<BR>> > >>>>>>>>
(my<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
wife<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plays cello) 28th season
with the ensemble. I am back at<BR>> > >>>>>
IUP<BR>> > >>>>>>>>
and<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
delivered<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> two arrangements of
French Noels from the Baroque period<BR>> to<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> begin the<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> semester and last week
conducted a first reading of my<BR>> "The<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Eternal<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flame",<BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a commemorative
piece for double trombone choir and<BR>> >
>>>>> narrator I<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> to<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark the 50th anniversary
of the Kennedy assassination.<BR>> > >>>>>
All of<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
that<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
will<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
be<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> performed on November 19
at the university. Next week I<BR>> > >>>>>
perform<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
with<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
IUP<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brass & organ faculty
at Zion Lutheran in Indiana for<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> Reformation<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Sunday<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the following week we
are doing Charlie Chaplin's<BR>> "City<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> Lights"<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> in<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butler. Chaplin created
the musical score for this silent<BR>> >
>>>>> film<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> and we<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> will<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be showing the film as we
perform. (Side note: if you<BR>> want<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> tickets<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> let me<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know as soon as
possible--I usually get 4 free ones)<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other than that, I spent
quality time with Ed at the<BR>> > >>>>>
Alle-Kiski<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
Historical<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Society, led a new
operator training class at PTM,<BR>> printed<BR>> >
>>>>> and<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> stuffed<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ballots for PTM, and am
going to the opera today to see<BR>> > >>>>>
Aida<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
(football<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> fan<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alert--Franco Harris is
leading the Grand March in the<BR>> > >>>>>
opera<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
today)<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I spend lots of time
practicing and cleaning up leaves.<BR>> I<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> mulch<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> some and<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> burn others---yes we are
still permitted to burn here.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you missed it--I also
performed at the PTM 50th<BR>> > >>>>>
Anniversary<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
luncheon.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> See the most recent issue
of PTM Trolley Fare, Fred<BR>> > >>>>>
Schneider<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
took<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>>
some<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
images.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis F.
Cramer<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <A
href="http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/">http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/</A><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 19
Oct 2013 05:49:49 -0700<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: <A
href="mailto:pcc_sr@yahoo.com">pcc_sr@yahoo.com</A><BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
[PRCo] still having issues<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stereo-vision
isn't it Mr.Cramer! Soapbox opportunity;<BR>> >
>>>>> make<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> the<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> most<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> of<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it!<BR>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have not
recently mentioned anything about your<BR>> >
>>>>> concert<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> or<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> music<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
engagements.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find them
fascinating. Music is not at all unlike<BR>> >
>>>>> laughter<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> is<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> it;<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both speak a universal
language.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes; BB are the
last posts I have seen. There was not<BR>> >
>>>>> much<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> of<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> anything<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before your BB posts for
several weeks. You mentioned a<BR>> >
>>>>> book<BR>> >
>>>>>>>> in<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> relation<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this; please tell
more.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Phil<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
--------------------------------------------<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10/19/13, DF
Cramer <<A
href="mailto:alto_trombone@hotmail.com">alto_trombone@hotmail.com</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo]
still having issues<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "<A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A>"
<<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday,
October 19, 2013, 3:52 AM<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it seemed very
interesting that after<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted on the list,
several emails came through. I<BR>> > >>>>>
assume<BR>> > >>>>>>>>>
people<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> were<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> responding with reply
all. I have received no posts from<BR>> >
>>>>> the<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>> list<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>> other<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than those dealing with
Billy Baxter.<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis F.
Cramer<BR>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <A
href="http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/">http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/</A><BR>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>
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Pens<BR>> > >>>>>>>>> Let's Go
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>>>>>>>> *In Pittsburgh...*<BR>> >
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Pens<BR>> > >>>>>>>> Let's Go
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> >>>> *In Pittsburgh...*<BR>> >
>>>> *......the Greatest City In The U.S.*<BR>>
> >>>> Let's Go Pens<BR>> > >>>>
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>> *In Pittsburgh...*<BR>> > >> *......the
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