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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Derrick</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">It all seems to be, at least to a now outsider, 
referred to as Cranberry now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=shadow@dementix.org href="mailto:shadow@dementix.org">Derrick 
  Brashear</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org 
  href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley 
  discussion</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car 
  Enters Pittsburg</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Warrendale still exists. Cranberry is the township further 
  north, and the<BR>most built-up area is what was Criders 
  Corners.<BR><BR><BR>On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Dwight Long &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net>wrote">dwightlong@verizon.net&gt;wrote</A>:<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  Ed, Derrick<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Question related to this 
  discussion.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; How did this area come to be known as 
  Cranberry?&nbsp; In my day in the area it<BR>&gt; was called 
  Warrendale.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; What changed?&nbsp; And why?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  Dwight<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; From: Edward H. Lybarger<BR>&gt; Sent: Saturday, 09 
  November, 2013 09:18<BR>&gt; To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion'<BR>&gt; 
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg<BR>&gt; 
  Unquestionably.&nbsp; But who pays, and how do you get south of McKnight 
  Road?<BR>&gt; Center of the freeway works most of the way, but the subway 
  connection<BR>&gt; would<BR>&gt; be circuitous.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -----Original 
  Message-----<BR>&gt; From: <A 
  href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>&gt; 
  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of<BR>&gt; 
  Derrick Brashear<BR>&gt; Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:41 AM<BR>&gt; To: 
  Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car 
  Enters Pittsburg<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Edward H. 
  Lybarger<BR>&gt; &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:trams2@comcast.net>wrote">trams2@comcast.net&gt;wrote</A>:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  &gt; You have to wonder how many other companies nationwide were 
  built,<BR>&gt; &gt; like the Harmony Route, to satisfy the gigantic ego of the 
  guy behind<BR>&gt; &gt; it.&nbsp; It went the long way to Butler (and probably 
  drew just enough<BR>&gt; &gt; traffic from the Short Line to render it 
  insolvent); New Castle was a<BR>&gt; &gt; long way off and although it had 
  people, not enough of them wanted to<BR>&gt; &gt; go to Pittsburgh.&nbsp; In 
  between was a lot of nothing, plus Evans City<BR>&gt; &gt; and Ellwood 
  City.&nbsp; Oh, yes, there was also a nice camping area along<BR>&gt; &gt; the 
  Connoquenessing that Mr. Boggs favored.&nbsp; He also favored the most<BR>&gt; 
  &gt; expensive construction that could be had...only the best.<BR>&gt; 
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Mr. Boggs built the line with the expectation that everyone 
  adjacent<BR>&gt; &gt; to it would come to his department store.&nbsp; This 
  just didn't happen.<BR>&gt; &gt; David McCahill compounded the misery by 
  acquiring the Short Line out<BR>&gt; &gt; of receivership in about 1919...now 
  he had two companies that couldn't<BR>&gt; &gt; earn a living, and when the 
  bonds came due, there was no money.&nbsp; Some<BR>&gt; &gt; of the bridges sat 
  for years after abandonment because no one could<BR>&gt; &gt; earn enough in 
  scrap value to justify the labor cost of dismantling them.<BR>&gt; 
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Just another company that never should have been 
  built.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; While today, a fast rail route to at least 
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