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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <BR>Was relating the experience of my family. Two brothers arrived in area in 1780s. As with the Amish in Lancaster County, one brother plus most of the off-spring of other brother (about 8-10 family groups over couple generations) eventually headed west - until some ran out of firm ground on west coast. With one exception (and they disappeared from Pgh area in 1925) , haven't found anyone that stayed continuously in the Pittsburgh area. My grandfather returned to Pittsburgh from Nevada in 1909 - NOT for a job, but to attend Pitts medical school. Even grandmother's side: family arrived in Homestead from England 1884 - and within a decade had continued west to Lorain, Ohio. Grandma returned to Pittsburgh to attend West Penn School of Nursing. Glad she did, or I would not be here today.<BR> <BR>The advantage of a weird name is that it makes it easy to track the movements of 'cousins' in the census data. Our ancestors might have been a lot more mobile then we give them credit. Which can play havoc with statistics.<BR> <BR> <BR><br> <BR><div>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 06:25:43 -0800<br>> From: pcc_sr@yahoo.com<br>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Regional population numbers<br>> <br>> Figures present 'their' story but you present reality Mr.Swindler.<br>> Pittsburgh once claimed to be the gateway to the west didn't it.<br>> It is then obvious it is a temporary abode for many but permanent<br>> for some.<br>> <br>> P<br>> <br>> <br>> --------------------------------------------<br>> On Sun, 11/17/13, John Swindler <j_swindler@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Regional population numbers<br>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org><br>> Date: Sunday, November 17, 2013, 7:18 PM<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> People of European descent have been leaving the Pittsburgh<br>> region for past 200 years. Nothing new. <br>> Pittsburgh region was frequently just a way-station, even<br>> back in 1810. Sometimes families hung around for<br>> several generations, but just as frequently less than one<br>> generation. Your family is an example of one that left<br>> prior to 1960 peak.<br>> <br>> People have also been moving into the Pittsburgh area for<br>> past 200 years plus. Herb is just a recent<br>> example. <br>> <br>> And in some instances, families left Pittsburgh - and part<br>> of the next generation returned. And not necessarily<br>> for work. Pitt medical school for instance, even in<br>> 1910.<br>> <br>> As for PAT ridership, as you know, PAT system ridership 40<br>> years ago was around 130 million per year. The rail<br>> ridership was around 22-25,000 per weekday. Today<br>> system ridership is around 65 million per year, while light<br>> rail ridership is about 27,000 per weekday. Light rail<br>> has held its ridership. Its the bus system that has<br>> suffered an evaporation of riders.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> > From: fwschneider@comcast.net<br>> > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:06:01 -0500<br>> > To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Regional population numbers<br>> > <br>> > 1810??? It vas on da frontier<br>> den. The census claims it grew from 1,565 in 1800 to<br>> 4,768 in 1810. Probably the people leaving were<br>> native Americans and we were killing them with European<br>> diseases. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pittsburgh-railways mailing list<br>> Pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<br>> https://mailman.dementix.org/mailman/listinfo/pittsburgh-railways<br></div>                                            </div>
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