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<DIV><FONT size=4>John</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Is that something from Orwell?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=j_swindler@hotmail.com
href="mailto:j_swindler@hotmail.com">John Swindler</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 25 April, 2014 09:42</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'><BR><BR><BR> <BR>Bad
news is good news<BR>good news is no news<BR>no news is bad
news<BR> <BR> <BR>Maybe these kids are more interested in their
electronic gadgets than an automotive gadget??? I'm clueless about
most of the gadgets consuming the time of today's youth - and younger
adults. I'm comfortable living in the dark ages, using pens and pencils,
and paper copies of documents. There's even paper money in my
wallet!! Must be one of the last of the dinosaurs. As for concern for oil,
younger generation no different than older generations. First priority is
earning a living. It's only the wealthy that can afford to speculate about
renewal resources.<BR> <BR>As for trends, oil industry data prior to 2008
is useless for projecting the future. Wasn't oil suppose to be almost
non-existent by 2010??? Instead appears to be a revolution underway in
this country. What the public doesn't see is the new pipelines and
reversal of direction of existing pipelines. The tank car trains are more
visible. Also seemingly overlooked by the public, much of the billions of
dollars sent overseas to buy crude oil in year's past is now staying in this
country. Time to go walk the dogs at a local
shelter. Good exercise, and free. Too cheap to bother with a
gym. <BR><BR> <BR>> From: fwschneider@comcast.net<BR>> Date:
Thu, 24 Apr 2014 22:19:18 -0400<BR>> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 -
Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>> <BR>> I think we both know who would
be so perspicacious to have said that. <BR>> <BR>> But I would
agree that it might be the youth. Funny thing how the eastern people
say light rail will not work but the people in San Diego, Los Angeles, Portland,
Phoenix, Dallas
places with younger populations
are riding. The
kids may also be understanding that you cannot grow more 50-million-year-old
trees-in-swamps and then put them thousands of feet underground to make more
oil. What we have is finite. The old folks are in
denial. Maybe the kids get it. <BR>> <BR>> Our
local paper printed a chart showing gas prices two days ago and suggested that
it is terrible that gas prices are going up again.<BR>> <BR>> Click on
this link and then click on the six month chart and you will see what they
printed in the paper. They showed it had gone from 3.33 to
3.66<BR>> nationally since last October
the change in the last six
months. Anything to make people angry and stir up the readers so
that they will buy more papers, right?<BR>>
<BR>>
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx<BR>> <BR>> Now click on
the 10 Year link
<BR>> Now you will see that it climbed from about $1.75 in
April 2004 up to $4.12 in the summer of 2008 (summers are always high because of
different formulations to prevent air pollution on hot days). Then
the recession hit. But the recession still isn't over.
But reliable friends of mine in the oil industry suggested that worldwide demand
would probably begin to exceed supply around 2010
but the recession masked
that. If demand had exceeded supply, there would have been a sharp
upward curve in prices. Even if supplies were adequate and inflation
normal, had there been no global recession, ---- then project what was happening
before 2008 and you can see that we should have gas prices over $6.00
now. And they could have been closer to $7 if the demand curve
exceeded supply.<BR>> <BR>> Maybe John, some of those kids
understand. Does this also have something to do with the
revelation that a lot of our kids today are not in a hurry to get drivers
licenses like we were? <BR>> <BR>> Yes, "It's amazing
what people would rather have than money".<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> On Apr 24, 2014, at 9:31 PM, John Swindler wrote:<BR>>
<BR>> > <BR>> > Don't know. But it might be reversed,
now. It's a very small sample size, so subject to noticeable
fluctuations. Would probably average out and not be noticeable looking at
system numbers.<BR>> > <BR>> > Maybe younger folks have a greater
appreciation of the cost of auto travel????? Also noticed that we
passed/or were passed by a lot of single occupant SUVs on 322.
<BR>> > <BR>> > To quote a friend in Washington County: "It's
amazing what people would rather have than money".<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> >> From: fwschneider@comcast.net<BR>> >>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:07:42 -0400<BR>> >> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo]
9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>> >> <BR>> >> The
men in Hershey and women in Hummelstown is perplexing. Why?<BR>>
>> <BR>> >> Older versus younger might represent a change in how
some state or federal government agencies awarded parking spaces. <BR>>
>> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> On Apr 24, 2014,
at 6:58 PM, John Swindler wrote:<BR>> >> <BR>> >>> <BR>>
>>> <BR>> >>> When I first started riding the 7:20 am
Hershey bus to Harrisburg around 2000, ridership never exceeded 6 during first
year, and occasionally I was the only rider. After 5-6 years, a 40 foot
bus was assigned when ridership routinely exceeded 20. By 2010, a third
bus was added to the schedule to alleviate overcrowding.<BR>> >>>
<BR>> >>> About the only constant for a dozen years was that I rode
this bus. There was constant change in the ridership. For a few
years it was mostly women. Then for a few years mostly men. Then
switched back to women. At the end, men tended to board in Hershey, while
the women boarded in Hummelstown. Even the age of riders fluctuated.
Older riders in early years. A lot of young people at the
end. <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> <BR>>
>>> <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>> Date: Thu, 24 Apr
2014 18:26:03 -0400<BR>> >>>> From: shadow@dementix.org<BR>>
>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
lines<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at
5:44 PM, Fred Schneider <fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote:<BR>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>>> Unduplicated route miles in
Toronto after the Bloor subway opened might<BR>> >>>>> have
been around 40ish. At that time Pittsburgh was still running
to<BR>> >>>>> McKeesport, Drake, Library, West View.
Millvale and the West End One of my<BR>> >>>>> favorite
examples is a comparison of two almost identical cities
<BR>>
>>>>> Harrisburg, Pa. and Victoria, BC. Both have
populations on the same order<BR>> >>>>> of magnitude but the
Canadian city has ten times more bus riders than the<BR>>
>>>>> Pennsylvania city
150,000 on a weekday in Victoria versus
15,000 in<BR>> >>>>> Harrisburg. You stand on the
main streets in downtown Victoria in the<BR>> >>>>> rush hour
and you see buses swallowing up crowds of people. I did that in<BR>>
>>>>> 2007. Harrisburg? Why would I humble myself to
ride a bus? I own a car.<BR>> >>>>> <BR>>
>>>>> <BR>> >>>> Why would I do either? my bike
certainly took me from Camp Hill to the<BR>> >>>> Eisenhower
Interchange and back easily enough ;)<BR>> >>>> <BR>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>>
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