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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=j_swindler@hotmail.com
href="mailto:j_swindler@hotmail.com">John Swindler</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 26 April, 2014 07:27</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
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Perspective on news from the reporters point of view.
<BR><BR> <BR>> From: dwightlong@verizon.net<BR>> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 23:43:21
-0400<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
lines<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> John<BR>> <BR>> Is that something from
Orwell?<BR>> <BR>> Dwight<BR>> <BR>> From: John Swindler <BR>>
Sent: Friday, 25 April, 2014 09:42<BR>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion
<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Bad news is good news<BR>> good
news is no news<BR>> no news is bad news<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Maybe these kids are more interested in their electronic gadgets than
an automotive gadget??? I'm clueless about most of the gadgets
consuming the time of today's youth - and younger adults. I'm comfortable
living in the dark ages, using pens and pencils, and paper copies of
documents. There's even paper money in my wallet!! Must be one of
the last of the dinosaurs. As for concern for oil, younger generation no
different than older generations. First priority is earning a
living. It's only the wealthy that can afford to speculate about renewal
resources.<BR>> <BR>> As for trends, oil industry data prior to 2008
is useless for projecting the future. Wasn't oil suppose to be almost
non-existent by 2010??? Instead appears to be a revolution underway in
this country. What the public doesn't see is the new pipelines and
reversal of direction of existing pipelines. The tank car trains are more
visible. Also seemingly overlooked by the public, much of the billions of
dollars sent overseas to buy crude oil in year's past is now staying in this
country. Time to go walk the dogs at a local
shelter. Good exercise, and free. Too cheap to bother with a
gym. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > From:
fwschneider@comcast.net<BR>> > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 22:19:18
-0400<BR>> > To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> >
Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>> >
<BR>> > I think we both know who would be so perspicacious to have said
that. <BR>> > <BR>> > But I would agree that it might be
the youth. Funny thing how the eastern people say light rail will
not work but the people in San Diego, Los Angeles, Portland, Phoenix, Dallas
places with younger populations
are riding. The kids may also be
understanding that you cannot grow more 50-million-year-old trees-in-swamps and
then put them thousands of feet underground to make more oil. What
we have is finite. The old folks are in denial. Maybe
the kids get it. <BR>> > <BR>> > Our local paper printed
a chart showing gas prices two days ago and suggested that it is terrible that
gas prices are going up again.<BR>> > <BR>> > Click on this link and
then click on the six month chart and you will see what they printed in the
paper. They showed it had gone from 3.33 to 3.66<BR>> >
nationally since last October
the change in the last six months.
Anything to make people angry and stir up the readers so that they will buy more
papers, right?<BR>> > <BR>> >
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx<BR>> > <BR>> >
Now click on the 10 Year link
<BR>> > Now you will see that it climbed
from about $1.75 in April 2004 up to $4.12 in the summer of 2008 (summers are
always high because of different formulations to prevent air pollution on hot
days). Then the recession hit. But the recession still
isn't over. But reliable friends of mine in the oil industry
suggested that worldwide demand would probably begin to exceed supply around
2010
but the recession masked that. If demand had exceeded supply,
there would have been a sharp upward curve in prices. Even if
supplies were adequate and inflation normal, had there been no global recession,
---- then project what was happening before 2008 and you can see that we should
have gas prices over $6.00 now. And they could have been closer to
$7 if the demand curve exceeded supply.<BR>> > <BR>> > Maybe John,
some of those kids understand. Does this also have something
to do with the revelation that a lot of our kids today are not in a hurry to get
drivers licenses like we were? <BR>> > <BR>> >
Yes, "It's amazing what people would rather have than money".<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > On Apr 24,
2014, at 9:31 PM, John Swindler wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>>
> > Don't know. But it might be reversed, now. It's a very
small sample size, so subject to noticeable fluctuations. Would probably
average out and not be noticeable looking at system numbers.<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Maybe younger folks have a greater appreciation of the cost
of auto travel????? Also noticed that we passed/or were passed by a lot of
single occupant SUVs on 322. <BR>> > > <BR>> >
> To quote a friend in Washington County: "It's amazing what people
would rather have than money".<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>>
> > <BR>> > >> From: fwschneider@comcast.net<BR>> >
>> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:07:42 -0400<BR>> > >> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> > >> Subject: Re:
[PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>> > >> <BR>>
> >> The men in Hershey and women in Hummelstown is
perplexing. Why?<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> Older
versus younger might represent a change in how some state or federal government
agencies awarded parking spaces. <BR>> > >> <BR>> >
>> <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> On Apr 24, 2014, at 6:58
PM, John Swindler wrote:<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>>
<BR>> > >>> <BR>> > >>> When I first started
riding the 7:20 am Hershey bus to Harrisburg around 2000, ridership never
exceeded 6 during first year, and occasionally I was the only rider. After
5-6 years, a 40 foot bus was assigned when ridership routinely exceeded
20. By 2010, a third bus was added to the schedule to alleviate
overcrowding.<BR>> > >>> <BR>> > >>> About the
only constant for a dozen years was that I rode this bus. There was
constant change in the ridership. For a few years it was mostly
women. Then for a few years mostly men. Then switched back to
women. At the end, men tended to board in Hershey, while the women boarded
in Hummelstown. Even the age of riders fluctuated. Older riders in
early years. A lot of young people at the end. <BR>>
> >>> <BR>> > >>> <BR>> > >>> <BR>>
> >>> <BR>> > >>>> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:26:03
-0400<BR>> > >>>> From: shadow@dementix.org<BR>> >
>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> >
>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
lines<BR>> > >>>> <BR>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr
24, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Fred Schneider
<fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote:<BR>> > >>>> <BR>>
> >>>>> Unduplicated route miles in Toronto after the Bloor
subway opened might<BR>> > >>>>> have been around
40ish. At that time Pittsburgh was still running to<BR>> >
>>>>> McKeesport, Drake, Library, West View. Millvale and
the West End One of my<BR>> > >>>>> favorite examples is a
comparison of two almost identical cities
<BR>> > >>>>>
Harrisburg, Pa. and Victoria, BC. Both have populations on the same
order<BR>> > >>>>> of magnitude but the Canadian city has
ten times more bus riders than the<BR>> > >>>>>
Pennsylvania city
150,000 on a weekday in Victoria versus 15,000 in<BR>>
> >>>>> Harrisburg. You stand on the main streets
in downtown Victoria in the<BR>> > >>>>> rush hour and you
see buses swallowing up crowds of people. I did that in<BR>> >
>>>>> 2007. Harrisburg? Why would I humble myself to
ride a bus? I own a car.<BR>> > >>>>> <BR>>
> >>>>> <BR>> > >>>> Why would I do either?
my bike certainly took me from Camp Hill to the<BR>> > >>>>
Eisenhower Interchange and back easily enough ;)<BR>> > >>>>
<BR>> > >>>> <BR>> > >>>> <BR>> >
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