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<DIV><FONT size=4>Or those who would drive the same time in transit (one way)
(and spend the USD for fuel) just to obtain 14 new miles of ex_RDG track.
Not to mention getting up at 0300 to do it!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>As to observing vehicle occupacity, we were discussing SUVs on
US 322. I agree with your comment about riding transit, of which there was
none that went where I “needed” to go. Yeah, I really needed those 14 new
miles!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Funny what money will buy.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=j_swindler@hotmail.com
href="mailto:j_swindler@hotmail.com">John Swindler</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 25 April, 2014 23:42</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
lines</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'><BR>The
context might help - vague recollection that discussion started with comments
about neighbors trying to 'keep up with Jones' '<BR> <BR>But there are a
lot of things people desire that are beyond my comprehension. But I'd bet
the farm that most people would also consider beyond comprehension driving five
hours to volunteer to operate a trolley car. Guess everyone has their own
periods of insanity - at least in the eyes of
others.<BR> <BR>As for observing vehicle occupancy, it easy if you have a
preference for cross seats and board the bus near end of line. Thus get
preferred seat.<BR> <BR><BR> <BR>> From:
dwightlong@verizon.net<BR>> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 23:12:52
-0400<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
lines<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> John<BR>> <BR>> What earthly good is
money, if one does not use it to acquire something that one desires?<BR>>
<BR>> Such as rare miles?<BR>> <BR>> I just came back from using 322
but must confess I did not conduct a census of the occupacity of vehicles.
I was too busy dodging the slow and erratic ones so that I could make some time
to get to Harrisburg in time to get caught in a huge backup on I-81 (which I
skillfully avoided by using US 22 to I-283—probably took just as long as the
traffic jam—or longer—but I kept moving except at stop lights).<BR>> <BR>>
Dwight<BR>> <BR>> From: John Swindler <BR>> Sent: Thursday, 24 April,
2014 21:31<BR>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion <BR>> Subject: Re:
[PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>> <BR>> Don't
know. But it might be reversed, now. It's a very small sample size,
so subject to noticeable fluctuations. Would probably average out and not
be noticeable looking at system numbers.<BR>> <BR>> Maybe younger
folks have a greater appreciation of the cost of auto travel????? Also
noticed that we passed/or were passed by a lot of single occupant SUVs on
322. <BR>> <BR>> To quote a friend in Washington
County: "It's amazing what people would rather have than
money".<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > From:
fwschneider@comcast.net<BR>> > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:07:42
-0400<BR>> > To: pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> >
Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>> >
<BR>> > The men in Hershey and women in Hummelstown is
perplexing. Why?<BR>> > <BR>> > Older versus younger
might represent a change in how some state or federal government agencies
awarded parking spaces. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> On Apr 24, 2014, at 6:58 PM, John Swindler wrote:<BR>> > <BR>>
> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > When I first started riding the
7:20 am Hershey bus to Harrisburg around 2000, ridership never exceeded 6 during
first year, and occasionally I was the only rider. After 5-6 years, a 40
foot bus was assigned when ridership routinely exceeded 20. By 2010, a
third bus was added to the schedule to alleviate overcrowding.<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > About the only constant for a dozen years was that I rode
this bus. There was constant change in the ridership. For a few
years it was mostly women. Then for a few years mostly men. Then
switched back to women. At the end, men tended to board in Hershey, while
the women boarded in Hummelstown. Even the age of riders fluctuated.
Older riders in early years. A lot of young people at the
end. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > >> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:26:03
-0400<BR>> > >> From: shadow@dementix.org<BR>> > >> To:
pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org<BR>> > >> Subject: Re:
[PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>> > >> <BR>>
> >> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Fred Schneider
<fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote:<BR>> > >> <BR>> >
>>> Unduplicated route miles in Toronto after the Bloor subway opened
might<BR>> > >>> have been around 40ish. At that time
Pittsburgh was still running to<BR>> > >>> McKeesport, Drake,
Library, West View. Millvale and the West End One of my<BR>> >
>>> favorite examples is a comparison of two almost identical cities
…<BR>> > >>> Harrisburg, Pa. and Victoria, BC. Both
have populations on the same order<BR>> > >>> of magnitude but
the Canadian city has ten times more bus riders than the<BR>> >
>>> Pennsylvania city … 150,000 on a weekday in Victoria versus 15,000
in<BR>> > >>> Harrisburg. You stand on the main
streets in downtown Victoria in the<BR>> > >>> rush hour and you
see buses swallowing up crowds of people. I did that in<BR>> >
>>> 2007. Harrisburg? Why would I humble myself to ride a
bus? I own a car.<BR>> > >>> <BR>> >
>>> <BR>> > >> Why would I do either? my bike certainly
took me from Camp Hill to the<BR>> > >> Eisenhower Interchange and
back easily enough ;)<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> <BR>> >
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