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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Fred</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Thanks for that. But it apparently has no
commercial flights--all now seem to go to Middletown.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=fwschneider@comcast.net href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net">Fred
Schneider</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:37
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for
PAT trolley lines</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>The earlier airport was and still is New Cumberland, aka
Capitol City Aiport (HAR). <BR><BR><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_City_Airport_(Pennsylvania">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_City_Airport_(Pennsylvania</A>)<BR><BR>The
old Olmstead Air Force Base was closed c. 1963.<BR><BR><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrisburg_International_Airport">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrisburg_International_Airport</A><BR><BR>I've
flown into both … meaning I was the pilot. The FAA written test
was given at Capitol City so I flew into it to take the written test. I
had a flight instructor who told me I was "ground shy" so he forced me to fly
five feet off the ground at MDT for several miles … you can do that on a long
runway designed for jets. WHERE IS THIS ALL LEADING.
NOWHERE. The property tax bill came and I woke up and figured it
was more important to keep the house I had just built than playing around
flying single engine planes. Never did get my license but I was
within a couple hours of the final check flight back in 1976. It
was fun playing. <BR><BR>It all started when I did an article for
TRAINS on the Erie Lackawanna and figured the only way I could show the
proximity of expensive homes to the railroad was aerial
photography. It was fun while it lasted.<BR><BR><BR>On Apr 26,
2014, at 11:08 AM, Dwight Long wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> Ed<BR>> <BR>>
The sly point in all this was that it is Middletown’s airport by code, not
Harrisburg’s. <BR>> <BR>> Harrisburg must have had an airport
before they got MDT, but I think it may have been before the codes were
assigned as HBG is assigned to Hattiesburg, Miss. I find it hard to believe
that the latter beat Harrisburg to the punch in having a commercial
airport.<BR>> <BR>> Even more fun can be had with asking the question
about Cincinnati--------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Dwight<BR>>
<BR>> From: Edward H. Lybarger <BR>> Sent: Saturday, 26 April, 2014
08:37<BR>> To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion' <BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo]
9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>> Today's Harrisburg
International Airport (MDT) was the former Olmstead Air<BR>> Force Base
near Middletown. Again, your tax dollars at play.<BR>> <BR>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>>
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of<BR>>
Dwight Long<BR>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:07 PM<BR>> To: Western
PA Trolley discussion<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT
trolley lines<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Fred<BR>> <BR>> I don't have a
clue about the men in Hershey, unless they consumed too much<BR>> of the
local product.<BR>> <BR>> The women in Hummelstown are perplexed because
the last flood, supposedly a<BR>> 500 year episode, washed out the local
railway bridge and they have been cut<BR>> off from Middletown for a couple
of years. But not to worry, your Govt to<BR>> the rescue-the bridge is
undergoing (maybe it is finished by now) a<BR>> multi-million dollar repair
and the fair maidens will lament no more.<BR>> <BR>> I just came back
from a train trip that went over a similarly Govt funded,<BR>> restored
bridge-in White Deer, Pa., but the expenditure was only a paltry<BR>>
million USD.<BR>> <BR>> Your tax dollars at work. Although I must
admit I can think of far worse<BR>> uses for them.<BR>> <BR>> BTW, if
one flies into Harrisburg (on commercial service), whose airport is<BR>>
used?<BR>> <BR>> Dwight<BR>> <BR>> From: Fred Schneider<BR>>
Sent: Thursday, 24 April, 2014 21:07<BR>> To: Western PA Trolley
discussion<BR>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
lines<BR>> The men in Hershey and women in Hummelstown is
perplexing. Why?<BR>> <BR>> Older versus younger might
represent a change in how some state or federal<BR>> government agencies
awarded parking spaces. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Apr 24,
2014, at 6:58 PM, John Swindler wrote:<BR>> <BR>>> <BR>>>
<BR>>> When I first started riding the 7:20 am Hershey bus to Harrisburg
around<BR>> 2000, ridership never exceeded 6 during first year, and
occasionally I was<BR>> the only rider. After 5-6 years, a 40 foot
bus was assigned when ridership<BR>> routinely exceeded 20. By 2010,
a third bus was added to the schedule to<BR>> alleviate
overcrowding.<BR>>> <BR>>> About the only constant for a dozen
years was that I rode this bus. There<BR>> was constant change in the
ridership. For a few years it was mostly women.<BR>> Then for a few
years mostly men. Then switched back to women. At the end,<BR>>
men tended to board in Hershey, while the women boarded in
Hummelstown.<BR>> Even the age of riders fluctuated. Older riders in
early years. A lot of<BR>> young people at the end.
<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>>> Date:
Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:26:03 -0400<BR>>>> From: <A
href="mailto:shadow@dementix.org">shadow@dementix.org</A><BR>>>> To:
<A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>>>>
Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>>>>
<BR>>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Fred Schneider<BR>>
<<A
href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote">fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote</A>:<BR>>>>
<BR>>>>> Unduplicated route miles in Toronto after the Bloor
subway opened might<BR>>>>> have been around 40ish. At
that time Pittsburgh was still running to<BR>>>>> McKeesport,
Drake, Library, West View. Millvale and the West End
<BR>>>>> One of my favorite examples is a comparison of two almost
identical<BR>> cities .<BR>>>>> Harrisburg, Pa. and Victoria,
BC. Both have populations on the same<BR>>
order<BR>>>>> of magnitude but the Canadian city has ten times
more bus riders <BR>>>>> than the Pennsylvania city . 150,000 on a
weekday in Victoria versus<BR>> 15,000 in<BR>>>>>
Harrisburg. You stand on the main streets in downtown Victoria in
the<BR>>>>> rush hour and you see buses swallowing up crowds of
people. I did that<BR>> in<BR>>>>> 2007.
Harrisburg? Why would I humble myself to ride a bus? I own
a<BR>> car.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> <BR>>>> Why
would I do either? my bike certainly took me from Camp Hill to
<BR>>>> the Eisenhower Interchange and back easily enough
;)<BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>>
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