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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">While BAL may well have been the airport code
for Friendship Field at one time, it now is the code for Batman Airport (he
apparently has his own for the Batmobile).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">OTOH, the airport the Louisville Bats baseball
team uses (if they fly???) is not BAT nor LVL but rather SDF, which stands for
Standiford Field. A number of three place airport codes were concocted for
the name of the airport rather than the city it served--ORD is one still in
use; another was IDL, which of course got changed to JFK. IAD and
IAH are another couple of those. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Another puzzlement is how the current Pgh
airport, formerly also an airbase, got the code PIT? One would have
thought that the old airport over by West Mifflin would have kept that code,
instead of being recoded AGC. Transferring the code seems to be the
exception rather than the norm. The authorities could easily have used
PGH, which would have been well understood. (I doubt the Indians had an
airport, at least a commercial one, back then).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Batman's airport, BTW, is in
Turkey.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=trams2@comcast.net href="mailto:trams2@comcast.net">Edward H.
Lybarger</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">'Western PA Trolley
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for
PAT trolley lines</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Fred's info about which Harrisburg area airport is which is
correct. I too flew into both of them, but as a passenger. City
codes expanded from two to three letters after the second war. WA
(Washington National) became DCA, BO (Baltimore) BAL, RW (Richmond) RIC, PT
(Pittsburgh) PIT, and HX (Harrisburg [New Cumberland] HAR. Where
practical, the first three letters of the city's name were
used.<BR><BR>Sometimes they're amusing: Singapore: SIN; Sioux City: SUX;
Fresno: FAT (for "Fresno Air Terminal")<BR><BR>-----Original
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href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org</A>
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Dwight
Long<BR>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:08 AM<BR>To: 'Western PA Trolley
discussion'<BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
lines<BR><BR><BR>Ed<BR><BR>The sly point in all this was that it is Middletown
s airport by code, not Harrisburg s. <BR><BR>Harrisburg must have had an
airport before they got MDT, but I think it may have been before the codes
were assigned as HBG is assigned to Hattiesburg, Miss. I find it hard to
believe that the latter beat Harrisburg to the punch in having a commercial
airport.<BR><BR>Even more fun can be had with asking the question about
Cincinnati--------------------------<BR><BR>Dwight<BR><BR>From: Edward H.
Lybarger<BR>Sent: Saturday, 26 April, 2014 08:37<BR>To: 'Western PA Trolley
discussion' <BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines
Today's Harrisburg International Airport (MDT) was the former Olmstead Air
Force Base near Middletown. Again, your tax dollars at
play.<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org]
On Behalf Of Dwight Long<BR>Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:07 PM<BR>To:
Western PA Trolley discussion<BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT
trolley lines<BR><BR><BR>Fred<BR><BR>I don't have a clue about the men in
Hershey, unless they consumed too much of the local product.<BR><BR>The women
in Hummelstown are perplexed because the last flood, supposedly a<BR>500 year
episode, washed out the local railway bridge and they have been cut off from
Middletown for a couple of years. But not to worry, your Govt to the
rescue-the bridge is undergoing (maybe it is finished by now) a multi-million
dollar repair and the fair maidens will lament no more.<BR><BR>I just came
back from a train trip that went over a similarly Govt funded, restored
bridge-in White Deer, Pa., but the expenditure was only a paltry million
USD.<BR><BR>Your tax dollars at work. Although I must admit I can think
of far worse uses for them.<BR><BR>BTW, if one flies into Harrisburg (on
commercial service), whose airport is used?<BR><BR>Dwight<BR><BR>From: Fred
Schneider<BR>Sent: Thursday, 24 April, 2014 21:07<BR>To: Western PA Trolley
discussion<BR>Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley
lines<BR>The men in Hershey and women in Hummelstown is
perplexing. Why?<BR><BR>Older versus younger might represent a
change in how some state or federal government agencies awarded parking
spaces. <BR><BR><BR><BR>On Apr 24, 2014, at 6:58 PM, John Swindler
wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> When I first started riding the 7:20 am
Hershey bus to Harrisburg <BR>> around<BR>2000, ridership never exceeded 6
during first year, and occasionally I was the only rider. After 5-6
years, a 40 foot bus was assigned when ridership routinely exceeded 20.
By 2010, a third bus was added to the schedule to alleviate
overcrowding.<BR>> <BR>> About the only constant for a dozen years was
that I rode this bus. <BR>> There<BR>was constant change in the
ridership. For a few years it was mostly women.<BR>Then for a few years
mostly men. Then switched back to women. At the end, men tended to
board in Hershey, while the women boarded in Hummelstown.<BR>Even the age of
riders fluctuated. Older riders in early years. A lot of<BR>young
people at the end. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>>> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:26:03 -0400<BR>>> From: <A
href="mailto:shadow@dementix.org">shadow@dementix.org</A><BR>>> To: <A
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</A><BR>>>
Subject: Re: [PRCo] 9/5/65 - Last day for PAT trolley lines<BR>>>
<BR>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Fred Schneider<BR><<A
href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote">fwschneider@comcast.net>wrote</A>:<BR>>>
<BR>>>> Unduplicated route miles in Toronto after the Bloor subway
opened might<BR>>>> have been around 40ish. At that time
Pittsburgh was still running to<BR>>>> McKeesport, Drake, Library,
West View. Millvale and the West End <BR>>>> One of my favorite
examples is a comparison of two almost identical<BR>cities .<BR>>>>
Harrisburg, Pa. and Victoria, BC. Both have populations on the
same<BR>order<BR>>>> of magnitude but the Canadian city has ten times
more bus riders <BR>>>> than the Pennsylvania city . 150,000 on a
weekday in Victoria versus<BR>15,000 in<BR>>>>
Harrisburg. You stand on the main streets in downtown Victoria in
the<BR>>>> rush hour and you see buses swallowing up crowds of
people. I did <BR>>>> that<BR>in<BR>>>> 2007.
Harrisburg? Why would I humble myself to ride a bus? I own
a<BR>car.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>> Why would I do either?
my bike certainly took me from Camp Hill to <BR>>> the Eisenhower
Interchange and back easily enough ;)<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>>
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