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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Fred</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Do you know when the terminal in Clarksburg was
built? At same time as other three?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">What is so wonderful about 300V motors? I
see a detriment. If one cripples, you have to take its paired motor out of
circuit as well. With 600V motors you only have to isolate the
cripple. What is the benefit?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">AVSR 830s had a "somewhat" more modern control
system--used a K75 rather than a K35. But it was still a platform
controller and I guess that is what you mean--automatic acceleration controllers
were already available. Now look at the contemporary M-WP versions--I
do not believe they even had WN drive, and I believe the motors were 600V
units. But the interiors were somewhat more nicely finished than the AV
version. Regardless, neither version was state of the art in 1930, which
is what you are saying, I think.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">For what was basically just a country trolley
line with mostly local ridership, WP did have deluxe terminals in its major
cities. However, I hardly think these would have been built if not for the
fact that they were shared with the power company and held the latter's
showrooms and offices.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic">Dwight</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=fwschneider@comcast.net href="mailto:fwschneider@comcast.net">Fred
Schneider</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org
href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">Western PA Trolley
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:00
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PRCo] Reading - Pgh. Press
- March 1 thru 9.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Yup. I chuckled two about Mitchell making it one of
the most modern transportation companies in the country. Maybe up to the
early 1920s until the public quit riding. <BR><BR>But we also know
that the mines were already fading in 1910 when West Penn built their last
routes. If memory is working, it was about 1910 that the Clairton
by-product recovery plant was built and that killed a lot of the beehive coke
ovens along the West Penn.<BR><BR>The last investment was around 1927-1930 …
the new terminals in Connellsville, Uniontown and Greensburg and the attempt
to get the cars off some of the busiest downtown streets in Uniontown.
The 800 series cars for the Allegheny Valley were quasi-modern, meaning sealed
gear boxes and 300 volt motors but the brake and control package was anything
but modern. <BR><BR><BR>On May 19, 2014, at 8:40 PM, Dwight Long
wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> Fred<BR>> <BR>> I love the part about
Mitchell helping to make West Penn one of the most modern transportation
companies in the country!<BR>> <BR>> I think Federal pre-emption of
local ordnances came as a result of lots of similar things to the McKeesport
fiasco.<BR>> <BR>> Dwight<BR>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> From: Fred Schneider <BR>> To: Western PA Trolley
discussion <BR>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:07 PM<BR>>
Subject: [PRCo] Reading - Pgh. Press - March 1 thru 9.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> The Pittsburgh and West Virginia Terminal fire .. look in March
22, 1946. The fire happened over night Mar. 21-22.<BR>>
<BR>> Philadelphia Company wins delay<BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3000%2C15764">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3000%2C15764</A><BR>>
<BR>> No page forward to page two, same edition. Bottom of
column one. Look at that picture at the bottom of the first column
of<BR>> the clothing department in Albert J. Mannsmann's department
store in East Liberty. Hard to believe a neighborhood department
store when we don't even have them downtown in our cities any longer.<BR>>
<BR>> The next link is two columns over to the right … same
page. I put this in for Ed Lybarger. AFL and CIO are
battling over who should represent the employees at Champion Stores, the
company store for Pittsburgh Consolidation Coal Company. So when
"I owe my soul to the company store" and it is shut down and I have no money,
do I starve? Or do I stick my shot gun in someone's face to get
money to eat? <BR>> <BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3639%2C25910">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3639%2C25910</A><BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2188%2C938893">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2188%2C938893</A><BR>>
<BR>> It is hard to believe how primitive aviation was back
then. This is also for Ed but the rest of you might get a kick out
of "Moon Township Airport Due to Get Funds." <BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3707%2C83272">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3707%2C83272</A><BR>>
<BR>> Personnel action at Pittsburgh Railways<BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3707%2C8327">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3707%2C8327</A><BR>>
<BR>> We won't give up harassing the power company<BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FFMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1579%2C291182">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FFMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1579%2C291182</A><BR>>
<BR>> The Pittsburgh, Shawmut and Northern Railway was sold in March
for 1.5 million dollars. Doesn't say so here but the last trains
ran about 27 days later.<BR>> <BR>>
<A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FVMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3055%2C650711">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FVMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3055%2C650711</A><BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2557%2C905732">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2557%2C905732</A><BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GVMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1940%2C2206355">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GVMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1940%2C2206355</A><BR>>
<BR>> Pittsburgh Railways unhappy that Montour Bus Company wants to
serve Spring Hill<BR>> <BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2136%2C940320">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2136%2C940320</A><BR>>
<BR>> This link is about eight hurt on a Greensburg-Blairsville bus
when an oil truck slid into it on the Lincoln Highway west of
Latrobe. But the story to it's right is a real winner too.<BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5161%2C1032106">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5161%2C1032106</A><BR>>
<BR>> Baldwin Locomotive Company shut down temporarily because they
could not get steel. There were peripheral stories that I did not
send about coal strikes and a lack of gas that also affected steel
mills. The second link comes a few days later when the United Mine
Workers and John L. Lewis lost in the Supreme Court for breaching a contract
with the government. The entire page of the paper in the
third link gives some idea about what was going on in the coal fields in
1947.<BR>> <BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1546%2C1062045">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1546%2C1062045</A><BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GFMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5426%2C1466133">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GFMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5426%2C1466133</A><BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GVMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1945%2C2013973">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GVMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1945%2C2013973</A><BR>>
<BR>> This guy must have loved his work. H. L. Mitchell
of West Penn achieves 45 years in harness.<BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5121%2C1062595">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=FlMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5121%2C1062595</A><BR>>
<BR>> Philadelphia Company's hearing is recessed<BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=F1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5770%2C1287583">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=F1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5770%2C1287583</A><BR>>
<BR>> Same old - same old. I love this. They
had clean coal back in 1947 except that they were unable to find
it. Coal industry accused of attempting to sabotage Pittsburgh's
smoke control program. I find the whole thing rather
amusing. This is the only item I have posted so far but the papers have
been filled with it. One of the better items prior to this was an
editorial cartoon showing Harrisburg aiming a canon at Pittsburgh's attempts
to clean up the city because the coal companies were buying the
legislators.<BR>> <BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=F1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6205%2C1324122">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=F1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6205%2C1324122</A>
<BR>> <BR>> Sounds like this chap employed the law firm of Dewey,
Cheetum and Howe to sue Pittsburgh Railways. <BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GFMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2250%2C1494659">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GFMbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2250%2C1494659</A><BR>>
<BR>> Fantastic article about all the rules McKeesport inflicted on
the B&O. I can only wonder when the ICC or the FRA told the
city to go pound sand. I know of similar cases where cities were
told that they had no control over railroads.<BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=G1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4302%2C2502871">http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=G1MbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1kwEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4302%2C2502871</A><BR>>
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