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<blockquote type="cite">On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Holland,
James B. <PRCoPCC at p-r-co.com> wrote:<br>
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....... About a decade ago a photo was posted here showing the
crossing -- the photographer was south looking north. I believe
Mark in Florida posted the photo. I have searched the lisp
photo files:<br>
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...using: "Char; prw; loop; track; sim" each of them separately
to see if I could find the photo which I could not. Maybe
others shall be more successful.<br>
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On Mon Sep 8 06:57:37 EDT 2014, D Brashear shadow at dementix.org
wrote<br>
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Jim, right idea but no picture. Mark [McGuire] said:<br>
<blockquote> "There is a shot on page 127 (bottom) in Leroy King's
Vol. IV of a 1700 car at Simmons taken from the abandoned
Charleroi trackage looking north. Now I just need to find
something similar but looking south into the abandoned trackage.
I have an old Bill Gwinn contact print of 4398 on a fantrip
looking south but it is very blurry."<br>
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Ahhhhhhh -- list server Just Back Up and Online And Hopefully
running .......<br>
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Thank You Mark and Daria! -- The book-photo IS fuzzy but NB
Charleroi tangent/'straight' rails clearly indicate guard rails
whether or not the point/mate are still in place. Guard rails would
not be on a tangent at this location without special work. The
picture I am looking for clearly shows the crossing frogs in the
loop/SB track to Charleroi, a prw photo similar view of book. Such
a crossing is "Not New Fabrication" but reclaimed from elsewhere on
PRCo (Sewickley loop became Drake loop--Undt Udders!)++ Here is
another pic of elusive 1701 at Simmons (possibly from Mark) looking
the other direction. But like others, it does not tell us anything:<br>
1701_Simmons.jpg -- URL below<br>
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<blockquote>++ "....... Railways generally had old hardware on
hand (removed from other locations but still usable) for such
purposes. Removal of crossing (along with trail point//mate) allow
installation of larger curved section on new loop without excess
joints."<br>
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We can take a lesson from the "wording" about Washington Closure
which is in Noah's ArkIves for the list: "PRCo PCC Interurban 1711
was the last REVENUE run from Washington to Pgh." It was NOT the
last car out of Tylerdale.<br>
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Back to Charleroi: While service was terminated, much is needed to
bring "Real Closure" to the line which includes moving both Spare
Revenue cars (PCCs, DE-Low-Floor cars, possibly one 3800-series car
which remained at least beyond end of service for said vehicles If
Not to the very end of Charleroi) and "M" equipment to other
locations on PRCo property as well as removal of overhead for scrap
value then dismantling the tracks. There is much more to closing
out operations with real estate (barn) etc. Thus the turnout in the
NB track to allow equipment from Charleroi to move to Pgh and work
equipment to do what it has to do down there.<br>
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NO! The rwy would not move spares ahead of closure. Operation
continues as usual until after closure; one can not predict if car
changes shall not be necessary on final runs. (As for Washington,
the city lines ended some weeks ahead of the interurban so those
cars could be moved out once they are not needed.)<br>
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The 4398 would be almost 2+years after Char closure, too late for
our needs.<br>
The following photos are URLs at the bottom of the email from the
following charter:<br>
1955.06.12 4398 PRCo Monongahela Incline, 57, 32, 36, 35,
38A, 38, 42, 40, 48, 49, 22, 4, 5, 21, 8, 10, 15, 13, 6, 18.<br>
4398SimmonsLoop-01_19550612.jpg -- already posted as BIN<br>
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4398SimmonsLoop-02_19550612.jpg -- already posted as BIN<br>
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4398_36-Loop_19550612_1600.jpg<br>
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This email in 'draft' when Daria posted to change BIN to JPG. You
did post these photos to list 2003-10-28 -- or that is date I
downloaded it. So now you have double copies of the photos; sell
the extra one on ebay!<br>
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<b>Jim</b> </div>
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PS-------I had intended being at PTM Archives on Friday and Sat morn
as well (12-13-Sept), but plans have changed and that shall be
rescheduled later in the month. I have rather active
"schedule//timetable" into early Oct.<br>
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