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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'>The 250s that survived the arrival of the 830s were taken to Connellsville no later than May 1937 and were scrapped soon thereafter. It is unlikely they were ever in service on the Irwin route, the dash sign for which would have contained Trafford as the westernmost community on the line at that point in time, so that artifact is clearly not from a West Penn “car 255.” The West Penn headlights we have in our archive are not labeled for specific car numbers; that doesn’t say AV didn’t do that, but I have no evidence that they did. Headlights were completely interchangeable, as were the destination signs (except for those on the 830s), thus it is extremely unlikely that West Penn would have spent the time and money to number them for individual cars.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'>This is not a matched pair!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> D Brashear [mailto:shadow@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> Edward H. Lybarger<br><b>Cc:</b> Western PA Trolley discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PRCo] so what was done to west penn 714?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>well, no claim the headsign was from 255, only the headlight. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <<a href="mailto:trams2@comcast.net" target="_blank">trams2@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'>250-262 were ex-Allegheny Valley cars and did not have permanent headlights. Neither did they have headsigns, as you note. I detect snake oil.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> D Brashear [mailto:<a href="mailto:shadow@gmail.com" target="_blank">shadow@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> Edward H. Lybarger</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Cc:</b> Western PA Trolley discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PRCo] so what was done to west penn 714?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>seemed fishy to me, he also posted a pic of a west penn headsign (sure) and a headlight he claimed was from west penn 255. so.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <<a href="mailto:trams2@comcast.net" target="_blank">trams2@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There is a reference to other HL equipment in this document. Certainly not<br>applicable to any West Penn passenger cars.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Pittsburgh-railways<br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org" target="_blank">pittsburgh-railways-bounces@mailman.dementix.org</a>] On Behalf Of D<br>Brashear via Pittsburgh-railways<br>Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 7:44 AM<br>To: Dwight Long<br>Cc: Western PA Trolley discussion<br>Subject: Re: [PRCo] so what was done to west penn 714?<br><br>Well, that's the claim.<br><br>On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Dwight Long <<a href="mailto:dwightlong@verizon.net" target="_blank">dwightlong@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>> WP????714?<br>><br>> Dwight<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> *From:* D Brashear via Pittsburgh-railways<br>> <<a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org" target="_blank">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</a>><br>> *To:* Western PA Trolley discussion<br>> <<a 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