<div dir="ltr">that's the one. some tracings, tho, too<br><br><a href="http://trolley.dementix.org/wcry/">http://trolley.dementix.org/wcry/</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Edward H. Lybarger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trams2@comcast.net" target="_blank">trams2@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That's the one from the abandonment petition.<br>
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To: Stephen Titchenal; Western PA Trolley discussion<br>
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Greensburg and North Vandergrift questions<br>
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There's westmoreland county railways maps at <a href="http://trolley.dementix.org" target="_blank">trolley.dementix.org</a> that I got<br>
from Ed like 10 years ago<br>
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Daria<br>
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> On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Stephen Titchenal via Pittsburgh-railways<br>
<<a href="mailto:pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org">pittsburgh-railways@mailman.dementix.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I'm starting to update my route maps for the Pittsburgh Area<br>
> Interurban Lines, in advance of visiting the PTM Archive next year.<br>
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> Questions related to Interurban routes:<br>
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> Greensburg:<br>
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> 1. The maps in the CERA West Penn Traction book and the PTM West<br>
Penn<br>
> Railways booklet are different. CERA shows a turn on the Otterman<br>
> line at Hamilton extending to Ludwick, but the PTM map shows it ending<br>
> at Hamilton and Otterman.<br>
><br>
> 2. The CERA map shows the line on Alexander extending to Weaver<br>
before<br>
> turning onto Green. The PTM map shows the line on Alexander extending<br>
> only to Stanton (misspelled Station?) before turning onto Green.<br>
><br>
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> There is a 1949 and 1950 Greensburg Map at Penn State Map Library.<br>
> Anybody checked that or another contemporary map to confirm the correct<br>
locations?<br>
> Or have access to another map of Greensburg from before the abandonment?<br>
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> North Vandergrift:<br>
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> The map in Dennis Cramer's Trolleys of Armstrong County<br>
> seems to show the line closer to the river than my tracing from the<br>
> 1938 aerials and digital elevation data. It sure looks like it would<br>
> have been on a private right-of-way west of Lincoln Ave until it<br>
> joined Lincoln Ave (rt<br>
> 66) around 3rd St and then continued along Lincoln until going back on<br>
> private right-of-way east of town but Dennis and Ed must have a reason<br>
> for showing the route which I assume follows the alley between Lincoln<br>
> and Jefferson?<br>
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> Latrobe:<br>
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> The discussion last year on the list and the map Bob<br>
> Netzlof drew clears up questions I had, but also shows the Westmorland<br>
> County Street Railway that I cannot find any route documentation for.<br>
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> FYI<br>
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> Penn State Library Digital Collection includes a<br>
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> 1920 Lewis' Pittsburgh Street & Trolley Guide<br>
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> <a href="http://collection1.libraries.psu.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/dig" target="_blank">http://collection1.libraries.psu.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/dig</a><br>
> italbk<br>
> s2/id/15293/rec/3<br>
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> I have attached a spreadsheet with the Suburban lines transcribed.<br>
> Lewis gives the Routes a letter/number designation. I am assuming<br>
> these were assigned by Lewis rather than as an official designation of<br>
> the Routes. For some reason there is no Route B or H. Were these in<br>
> earlier Lewis guides and abandoned before 1920?<br>
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> Stephen Titchenal<br>
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> Stephen@Titchenal.com<br>
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> <a href="http://railsandtrails.com" target="_blank">railsandtrails.com</a><br>
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