[milwaukee-electric] Re: Devil's Teapot photo update

Scott Greig sbgreig_m1 at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 19 09:35:43 EDT 2009


Yes, that's one of the D21-D25 series work motors, three of which eventually were re-re-re-rebuilt into fairly handsome line cars.

--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Larry Allan <lallan45 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Larry Allan <lallan45 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: Devil's Teapot photo update
> To: milwaukee-electric at lists.dementia.org
> Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 10:58 PM
> One more image of entire work car.
> On 10/18/09, Larry Allan <lallan45 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Don, Attached is a closer view of the workcar in image
> 001
> >
> > On 10/18/09, Don L. Leistikow <DLeistikow at webtv.net>
> wrote:
> >> Ken and list:   Back in WW 1 days,
> TMER&L fielded some really odd
> >> looking work rolling stock.
> >>
> >> Historically, they obtained some standard (of the
> day) flat cars, which
> >> were converted and revised as time wore on. 
> Obviously, they added a
> >> round end to the square end sill, for the purpose
> of making these cars
> >> able to acutally train (with flats) through the
> streets of Milwaukee.
> >> Remember that the Cold Spring Shops was built in
> 1913 as, KK was no
> >> longer able to keep up with street railway
> expansion.
> >>
> >>
> >> KK had been the original heavy duty shop up to
> that time.  Whereas CSS
> >> was only  connected to the street railway
> lines and to the CM&StP
> >> railway, the ability to negotiate the system
> required that all cars be
> >> able go around the 90* corners.
> >>
> >> To view how this was done, find the
> TMER&L  E 58 flat car which was at
> >> East Troy and is now at IRM, if my information is
> correct.  Looking
> >> underneath the car ends, you will see how TM
> applied the round ends and
> >> coupler mountings.  Then again, someone may
> have photos of this car
> >> laying on its back at East Troy's Phantom Woods
> yard.   If so, please
> >> post same.
> >>
> >> Now, the photo of a work car at the Devil's Tea
> Pot, may well have been
> >> one of these RR flat cars that had been motorized
> with a small cab on
> >> each end.  A careful look at this car
> impresses me as on of those early
> >> and cheap conversions.  The original square
> end with poling sockets
> >> seems to be in that photo.  That car would
> have been an early D series
> >> work motor.
> >>
> >> If anyone has a sharp photo image, please enlarge
> to see if I'm correct
> >> in my conclusion.
> >>
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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