[milwaukee-electric] Re: 1930s Transport Company Map, Showing the Creeks

[Ken and Tracie]

One map I have shows it that way, a 1927 TM map. Another map shows it 
flowing into the other Lincoln Creek tributary (the one originating in Holy 
Cross cemetery)  near about 54th, just north of Capitol Drive. No guarantee 
the latter map was accurate. That may have been a proposed re-routing and 
they just put it in the tunnel instead and the map maker jumped the gun.

Looking at the Google Earth map, the tunnels for the creeks from McGovern 
Park and Holy Cross Cemetery via Dineen park, actually enter Lincoln Creek 
almost directly across from each other at 47th Street, not 45th. My mistake. 
I should checked the street numbers before my last posting.

I know that there was concern about moving "Old Smokey" (the Milwaukee Road 
4-8-4 steam locomotive # 265) to Capitol Court due to the tunnels. It was on 
display on the South Side and had to be moved. Capitol Court management 
initially wanted it, but changed their mind.

As we all know, it wound up at the Illinois Railway Museum.

K.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Schnabl" <gSchnabl at SWDetroit.com>
To: <milwaukee-electric at lists.dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 3:31 PM
Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: 1930s Transport Company Map, Showing the 
Creeks


> On 7/11/2010 3:11 PM, Ken and Tracie wrote:
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>> This map was made shortly after Lincoln Creek was placed in a channel in 
>> =
>> the the center of Congress from about 47th, but before the Dineen, =
>> "Marion" and "McGovern" creeks were placed in tunnels. Also, it appears =
>> Lincoln Creek above Fond du Lac was still in a natural bed.=20
>>
>> So it appears that the creeks entered Lincoln Creek at about 45th =
>> Street, not 48th as I mistakenly indicated. In fact, a Google Earth =
>> photo shows the tunnels at about 45th. The "McGovern Park" creek was =
>> already in a tunnel above Hampton when this map was made. Now it exits =
>> at the eastbound lanes of Hampton, probably done when Hampton was =
>> widened. There was a small Red Owl grocery store there. It is now a drug 
>> =
>> store.
>>
>> K.
>>
> The Milwaukee maps 1928 and before definitely show that creek from
> Capitol Court tying into the Lincoln Creek at about 45th after it veered
> two blocks to the north from Hope at around 45th. That meant it flowed
> right down the strike zone in the Parklawn welfare project before its
> construction. My father frequented a victory garden near 45th and Hope
> around 1948 or so--the only vacant lot there, as I remember.
>
> Some of that area around 45th and Hope was still outside the Milwaukee
> city limits then. When I attended kindergarten during 1948/49 at
> Pleasant View (49th & Capitol), there was a city-limits sign at the
> corner of 49th and Capitol Drive for the eastbound traffic to see. The
> Milwaukee city limits sign kept steadily moving westward during the
> 1950s: to 60th, then 76th or so, until finally taking in all what was
> outside of Wauwatosa on Capitol.
>
> BTW, although I have been in Detroit since 1997, I occasionally listen
> to Milwaukee radio stations. One time, some caller was talking about
> Sherman Blvd in the early 1930s (1932?) being the last macadam street
> built in Milwaukee--hence, its being a "No trucking route" and having
> those smaller green buses afterward for a time.
>
>
> Gary
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