[milwaukee-electric] Re: 25th Anniversary: "The Trolley at East Troy"

[Don Ross]

I think the CNW had switches to the Madison line at Belton.  The 
interchange track came off the Madison line to the TM. Looking at the 
current Google view, the Madison tracks cut off the main at 
Belton.  My picture shows that point 
http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr0001/cnwbe.jpg  It now looks as 
if the C&NW bridge over the TM Waukesha line is gone and a new wye 
track following along close to the TM  right of way.  It looks a lot 
different that when I hung around that area over 60 years ago.

Don R



At 05:40 AM 7/20/2011, you wrote:
>West Allis Junction (98th Street) could very well be the site of the
>interlocking tower. However, the CNW interchange to the north appears to
>be at 102nd Street. The Hales Corners route bridge over Burnham was
>located between 99th and 100th Streets. Perhaps, better road access to a
>CNW interlocking tower at 98th Street might have been a consideration to
>locate it some four blocks east of the interchange.
>The map seems to show something parallel to the CNW tracks about two
>blocks wide. Was there a CNW yard or team tracks at that location? I
>live on a quiet dead-end street in an area that could be considered part
>of the once-huge Junction Yard (Livernois Yard
><http://www.michiganrailroads.com/RRHX/Stations/CountyStations/WayneStations/DetroitTerminal/LivernoisYard%28MC%29.htm>) 
>
>owned by the NY Central (named the Michigan Central for its Michigan and
>Ontario trackage). It is the only residential street in the entire yard
>area--only twelve houses. There are still remnants of a number of older
>team tracks nearby.
>
>Gary
>
>On 7/20/2011 2:47 AM, Don Ross wrote:
> > Think West Allis Junction was actually Belton Junction which was a
> > CNW Tower.  With the printed West Junction somewhat west of the TM
> > printing, it may be  where the actual place where the C&NW split from
> > Madison and Butler.  The TM had trackage from Lapham to 92nd and then
> > to a line towards Waukesha.  Route 10 went up to the TM West
> > Junction.   Route 19 came on Becher past 84th to National and
> > Mukwonago to 101st and south to Hales Corners.
> > Don R
> >
> > At 07:28 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote:
> >> This 1934 map clearly shows where the interurban had its bridges
> >> (http://www4.uwm.edu/libraries/digilib/zoom/am000785.cfm ) over street,
> >> streams, and railroad tracks. It also shows that West Allis Junction was
> >> located just east of West Junction--the map uses an arrow to locate it
> >> just east of 98th and Burnham. I suppose that streetcars used West Allis
> >> Junction and walked the short distance to West Junction. Or did the two
> >> junctions use only one passenger stop?
> >> One (interurban?) viaduct was from 39th to 45th Street (a bit north of
> >> Canal Street) over the railroad tracks and the river. Was it really that
> >> long? That was probably used before the rapid transit route extended
> >> east of 35th Street to Eighth and Hibernia. Are there any remnants left
> >> of the bridge over Honey Creek--around 81st to 83rd Streets?
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary