From gschnabl at swdetroit.com Sun Mar 18 22:33:08 2012 From: gschnabl at swdetroit.com (Gary Schnabl) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 22:33:08 -0400 Subject: [milwaukee-electric] This is Hibernia? No? Message-ID: <4F669AE4.80106@swdetroit.com> The caption for this graphic says... http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsa/8b28000/8b28600/8b28645v.jpg Group of houses at Detroit and Van Buren Streets, near electric railroad, Milwaukee, Wisconsin: photo by Carl Mydans, April 1936. I sent in a correction to the blog site: http://tomclarkblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/carl-mydans-unknowable-communities.html. BTW, was that a parking ticket on the windshield of the car? I recall seeing a Milwaukee newspaper article from around 1940 or so about the aborted subway, and the blacksmith shop at 902 was there then. Gary From gschnabl at swdetroit.com Sun Mar 18 23:04:11 2012 From: gschnabl at swdetroit.com (Gary Schnabl) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:04:11 -0400 Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: This is Hibernia? No? In-Reply-To: <4F669AE4.80106@swdetroit.com> References: <4F669AE4.80106@swdetroit.com> Message-ID: <4F66A22B.2010106@swdetroit.com> On 3/18/2012 10:33 PM, Gary Schnabl wrote: > The > caption for this graphic says... > http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsa/8b28000/8b28600/8b28645v.jpg > Group of houses at Detroit and Van Buren Streets, near electric > railroad, Milwaukee, Wisconsin: photo by Carl Mydans, April 1936. > I sent in a correction to the blog site: > http://tomclarkblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/carl-mydans-unknowable-communities.html. > > BTW, was that a parking ticket on the windshield of the car? I recall > seeing a Milwaukee newspaper article from around 1940 or so about the > aborted subway, and the blacksmith shop at 902 was there then. > > > Gary Web searching further, I came across this site, which had already corrected the erroneous caption: http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ix=seb&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=milwaukee+clybourn&oq=milwaukee+clybourn&aq=f&aqi=g-l1g-j1g-lm1g-b1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=10778l27502l0l28698l9l6l0l0l0l0l1675l5013l0.1.1.5-1.1.1.1l6l0&gs_l=hp.3..0i13j0i18j0i13i5j0i8.10778l27502l0l28698l9l6l0l0l0l0l1675l5013l0j1j1j5-1j1j1j1l6l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f3dffc7186102169&ix=seb&ion=1&biw=1639&bih=890 Gary From gschnabl at swdetroit.com Sun Mar 18 23:13:24 2012 From: gschnabl at swdetroit.com (Gary Schnabl) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:13:24 -0400 Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: This is Hibernia? No? In-Reply-To: <4F66A22B.2010106@swdetroit.com> References: <4F669AE4.80106@swdetroit.com> <4F66A22B.2010106@swdetroit.com> Message-ID: <4F66A454.3040000@swdetroit.com> On 3/18/2012 11:04 PM, Gary Schnabl wrote: > On 3/18/2012 10:33 PM, Gary Schnabl wrote: >> The >> caption for this graphic says... >> http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsa/8b28000/8b28600/8b28645v.jpg >> Group of houses at Detroit and Van Buren Streets, near electric >> railroad, Milwaukee, Wisconsin: photo by Carl Mydans, April 1936. >> I sent in a correction to the blog site: >> http://tomclarkblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/carl-mydans-unknowable-communities.html. >> >> BTW, was that a parking ticket on the windshield of the car? I recall >> seeing a Milwaukee newspaper article from around 1940 or so about the >> aborted subway, and the blacksmith shop at 902 was there then. >> >> >> Gary > Web searching further, I came across this site, which had already > corrected the erroneous caption: > http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ix=seb&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=milwaukee+clybourn&oq=milwaukee+clybourn&aq=f&aqi=g-l1g-j1g-lm1g-b1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=10778l27502l0l28698l9l6l0l0l0l0l1675l5013l0.1.1.5-1.1.1.1l6l0&gs_l=hp.3..0i13j0i18j0i13i5j0i8.10778l27502l0l28698l9l6l0l0l0l0l1675l5013l0j1j1j5-1j1j1j1l6l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f3dffc7186102169&ix=seb&ion=1&biw=1639&bih=890 > > > Gary Oops... http://www.shorpy.com/node/6476 Gary From DLeistikow at webtv.net Sun Mar 18 23:20:38 2012 From: DLeistikow at webtv.net (Don Leistikow) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:20:38 GMT Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: This is Hibernia? No? Message-ID: Gary S and list: Yeah, that is Hibernia Street, looking west toward 10th street and the overhead viaduct around Abel & Bach Luggage building. Is a photo date visable or known ? No way is that a photo of Detroit and Van Buren streets. I shall bring up another mis-captioned photo... that of the RTL 27th street landing. This photo looks down, ostensibly from the 27 street viaduct, and clearly shows the three tracks, shelter and the Red Star Yeast building immediately south of the prow. Looding SW, the prow is shown all the way to and including the switches to cross over from the freight track onto the eastbound main and then through a crossover to the westboun main. The High Voltage Towers are also in the photo. Imagine this... this photo is found in a collectiion of CMStP&P (Milwaukee Road) photographs. Does anyone have this photograph downloaded, in their collection ? If so, please upload it as an attachment, so that I and members can see it. Don L . -- Attached file removed by Ecartis and put at URL below -- -- Type: message/rfc822 -- Desc: [milwaukee-electric] This is Hibernia? No? -- Size: 4k (4699 bytes) -- URL : http://lists.dementix.org/files/milwaukee-electric/ecartbUCZcL From gschnabl at swdetroit.com Sun Mar 18 23:56:41 2012 From: gschnabl at swdetroit.com (Gary Schnabl) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:56:41 -0400 Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: This is Hibernia? No? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F66AE79.4040603@swdetroit.com> On 3/18/2012 11:20 PM, Don Leistikow wrote: > Gary S and list: Yeah, that is Hibernia Street, looking west toward > 10th street and the overhead viaduct around Abel& Bach Luggage > building. Is a photo date visable or known ? > No way is that a photo of Detroit and Van Buren streets. > > I shall bring up another mis-captioned photo... that of the RTL 27th > street landing. This photo looks down, ostensibly from the 27 street > viaduct, and clearly shows the three tracks, shelter and the Red Star > Yeast building immediately south of the prow. > > Looding SW, the prow is shown all the way to and including the switches > to cross over from the freight track onto the eastbound main and then > through a crossover to the westboun main. The High Voltage Towers are > also in the photo. > > Imagine this... this photo is found in a collectiion of CMStP&P > (Milwaukee Road) photographs. > > Does anyone have this photograph downloaded, in their collection ? If > so, please upload it as an attachment, so that I and members can see it. > > Don L . Those photos were a few taken from the 1936 collection. There were others beside the two in that set with erroneous captions. The Red Star photo was also corrected. I noticed that error a couple years go too when viewing those 1936 pictures. http://www.shorpy.com/node/3289 On another matter... Does anyone have any historical pictures of the vicinity of Fourth and Cherry? A number of the Uihleins lived there in their mansions until around 1935, and then their kids donated them to the Archdiocese--before being torn down by the city in favor of LBJ's ill-fated "urban renewal" projects during the Nixon years. The area between Fourth and Seventh Streets was a "high-rent" district during the 1800s. Then several breweries came--some pretty big... My old parish--St. John de Nepomuc--was originally in a small Protestant church that apparently went broke before it ever opened during the 1800s. Another Catholic church--St Joseph--a few blocks west was also housed in a busted Protestant church, and that church served the Bohemian parishioners a few years (three?) before they scrapped up the bucks for their own church on Fourth. The Slovaks eventually split off from the Bohemians and built their parish a couple blocks north. A seminarian from St. Francis wrote his 43-page masters thesis about St. John's in 1941. The librarian at the seminary sent me a copy last month. Gary >