Johnstown PCC Scans & a Pittsburgh Fantasy

[Derrick J Brashear]

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From: "Vigrass, Bill" <billvigrass at hillintl.com>
Subject: RE: Johnstown PCC Scans & a Pittsburgh Fantasy
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:49:12 -0400


Lotsaplaces used 5' 2 1/2 " gauge. Columbus, OH, Cinci, OH, New Orleans,
to name three.  Maybe others.  Bill V.
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> From: 	Charlesebrown at webtv.net[SMTP:Charlesebrown at webtv.net]
> Reply To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: 	Saturday, July 17, 1999 4:44 AM
> To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: 	Re: Johnstown PCC Scans & a Pittsburgh Fantasy
> 
> Thanks, Jim, for reminding me of a question that I forgot to post in
> regards to the rails on the Overbrook line.  In one or more of the
> video
> segments that you sent me it showed some sections with 4 rails where
> there wouldn't be any need for guard rails nor were they the right
> spacing for such.  The narrated segment (with the "noisy PCC's")
> mentioned that they were the original rails of the narrow-gauge
> railway
> (was it always steam or had they converted it to electric?) and I
> wanted
> to confirm that with you.  It seemed like they used awfully wide ties
> for the narrow-gauge railway for them to simply lay your bizarre wide
> gauge tracks alongside of them.  
> 
> As for getting some narrow-gauge cars to run on them, there are still
> some LA P-1 PCC's around in Egypt, plus a couple of the wide ones
> (P-3)
> in Chile I think.  Not to mention a couple still floating around (3101
> in Colorado Springs and 3087 somewhere in the California desert).  Not
> to mention a couple of "H" class cars around.  Not to mention...,
> well,
> this is getting w-a-y off topic.
> 
> Don mentioned the fact that Cincinnati used the Pennsy wide gauge on
> their system.  Cincinnati was a bit weird anyway.  They didn't know
> how
> many wires to stick overhead and while they got the correct number of
> trolley poles on the cars (2), they stuck them both at one end!  Did
> any
> other system use the wide gauge (5'2") outside of Pennsylvania?  And
> thanks, Jim (and Ed), for answering my question about the origins of
> it.
> Now if you guys could only explain where the heck Baltimore got their
> gauge from... (I know, it's off topic, plus I have the books on
> Baltimore but it would mean getting off of the couch to get them and
> then looking thru them for the answer, ah, too much work).
> 
> BTW, I'll be out of town next week so no fair talking about anything
> interesting until I get back.  
> 
> Charlie
> 
> Charlesebrown at webtv.net
>